The Mint on ITV Play

Friday 28 July (2006)

Since I’ve been staying up late most nights melting in the heat and playing worms (and by that I mean idling on IRC cursing various people) I’ve come to notice this program that occupies ITVs schedule from midnight until 4am – The Mint. It infuriates me on many, many levels.

The premise of the show is this: a seemingly simple puzzle is displayed on screen. There is a phone number on the screen, and a down-on-their luck broadcaster who has to stay up all hours of the night saying things like ‘Call in now! Remember to turn the volume down on your TV!’ and other banalities. The call costs 60p, a flat charge, so you think ‘hey, I’m not going to lose any money really!’ and phone in. So why does it annoy me?

Firstly, because the puzzles are ludicrous. The most common one I’ve seen is a game where a word is displayed, like ‘eye’ or ’super’ or ‘water’ and you have to phone in and suggest a word which goes with it, like watertight or watercress or supersonic. So, is it just me, or does this equate to guessing a random word from the dictionary? I mean sure, you think ‘how many possible words can there be?’ but after watching the fucking thing for four solid hours you realise there are hundreds of possibilities. If an hour or so goes by with no winners, they’ll insult your intelligence by giving you a clue (‘also a kind of mozzarella, _____ Bill, a cowboy’ - the answer was water buffalo) and then the presenters will stand around going ‘Why is no-one phoning in? This is so easy!’ which is a complete scam. Of course people are phoning in! Who wouldn’t? You can win £10,000 ($50,000) for saying a word that is blatantly obvious. Why is no-one actually getting through? Because the show isn’t letting them! They’re sitting around on hold for ten minutes whilst more and more people say to themselves ‘Jesus, it’s still up there… I have to phone in, I’m guaranteed to win!’ and give 60p over to the production company.

And when they’re not raping you with guessing games, or forcing you to wait ten minutes to get through to the show (where, incidentally, you go straight through to the presenter which disarms the majority of people) they get you with the puzzles. I saw one that went like this the other day:

Nineteen minus five
4 + 3 x 2
6 - 5

I mean what the fuck?? This requires some higher kind of logic. Or a set of rules. ‘Nineteen minus five’ is worded instead of numerated – why? ‘4 + 3 x 2′ is just plain wrong – I mean, is it ‘(4 + 3) x 2′ or is it ‘4 + (3 x 2)’? (In case you can’t figure it out, the former would yield 14 and the latter would yield 10.) ‘6 - 5′ is simple enough (I assume, anyway) but when you’ve figured it out, then what? I mean for God’s sake, do I add each result together? Multiply? Fucking integrate?? It’s a con.

The worst part about this is that it’s bad TV – it’s cheap TV, and it has no entertainment value. It’s about making money out of you, the audience, the viewing public. How do I know this? Because it’s the only show on ITV that doesn’t have an ad break. The only reason for this would be because they’re making more money from the phonecalls than they are from the ad revenue. This is just wrong, and horrible to boot. People have enough shit in their lives without having to get robbed by the TV. Channel 4 will give us premium, expensive drama like Lost because they pay for it through advertising. The BBC use the television license, and rewards viewers with the best quality broadcasting in the world. ITV… host a faux-gameshow which is a thinly veiled scam on the scale of a bloody pyramid scheme. And if they can give away up to £110,000 a night (the totalled value of the prizes for guessing words which follow ‘water’ tonight, which is the highest prize day (Big Money Thursday) and £40,000 of that is a ‘top prize’ which I’ve never seen won) then think about how much money they’re making themselves.

Other shows do this kind of thing – where you have to phone in to win a cash prize, and the show takes the money from all the calls put together and gives it out as the prize – but that’s fine. Why? Because I’d guess the majority of the money goes into the prize itself, and regardless of that, you’ve probably watched an exciting and suspenseful show. You’ve got your money’s worth.

I know this is from ITV Play, which is an entire channel dedicated to this kind of shit (I won’t get into it) which is a product of the digital TV revolution, and it just makes me think… wasn’t it better before? Companies weren’t spreading their budget over twelve channels, and producing piss-poor television, were they? I mean, Sky is one thing – you have to pay for it, but they have all the money to buy the syndication rights for most American shows before the terrestrial channels, so you do get quality programmes (albeit with a shitload of adverts, in keeping with the Americana) but digital has opened the floodgates for a whole load of shit. The only advantage I could ever see to more TV channels is the oppourtunity to repeat some classics from the vault which couldn’t find their way into normal schedules due to the quantity of good new stuff. To get repeated on terrestrial you have to be in the Only Fools and Horses or Fawlty Towers league, which is rare - so with dedicated channels you get to watch the less fondly remembered, but great, TV shows like Red Dwarf and The Fast Show.

And really, with DVDs, we don’t even need those channels anymore either. So, digital TV, please go away – or at the very least, someone take the money from ITV Play and put it into reducing the BBC TV license fee. Shit! It could probably pay for it outright.

1,080 Responses to “The Mint on ITV Play”


  1. Hahaha, I’ve seen this and it does indeed infuriate me to no end. The presenters themselves are annoying beyond all reckoning too.

  2. Sally Says:

    I’m ashamed to admit I fell for their devious scam too. I was trying to find some TV to send me to sleep but they kept thrusting that money in my face! For a poor student like me the idea of a quick and easy lump cash sum was too hard to resist.
    Yes, they really are bastards. And the presenters all need a good slap.

  3. stan Says:

    You actually phoned in? Ho ho, at least you don’t have to pay the bill eh ;-)

  4. bgbennyboy Says:

    I agree with every word of that rant. It really is a huge scam and crap tv..and its spreading. I first saw a mint-syle show on a digital channel a while ago, and now they’re everywhere. ITV has one, 5 has one and god knows how many different digital ones there are now. Just how much money must they be making for them all to coexist?

  5. Huzbo Says:

    This is all very true. Digital TV is shit. It may be good for repeats – but still not as good as it could be, with most digital channels repeating the same old dross over and over – but for day-to-day TV, there is really no point. There was never enough ‘new’ TV to go around when it was just BBC1 and BBC2, for instance, never mind if you add BBC3 and BBC4. What do we get now? New things shown on BBC3 and BBC4, then shown on BBC1 or BBC2 a few weeks later if they’re any good.

    Result? Nobody bothers watching BBC3 and BBC4, because if that’s the only place you can watch the programme… chances are it’s shit.

    As for ITV, I think it’s a lost cause now. It’s so downmarket you can get a rash just from watching it. It was a sad day when they realised that you can make more money from fleecing chavs – rather than actually making programmes that people will like.

    No offence to anyone who did get conned by ITV Play though, even my dad was addicted to one of those quiz channels for a while. :(

  6. Huzbo Says:

    Ah piss off, I forgot about Akismet. You’d think it would take the LENGTH of the comment into account.

    Short version: I agree, ITV Play is shit and the person who invented it should be shot.

  7. stan Says:

    Hee, it’s that bloody email address man – sounds totally spammo. I was going to say though, BBC3 and BBC4 seem to have some good things, and the BBC are holding off putting them on terrestrial so that more people have to upgrade. When I saw The Mighty Boosh Live they complained about their erratic scheduling robbing them of fans – I only found out about the show through a friend.

  8. David T Says:

    Wise words. I’m bored, too hot to sleep and kind of get hypnotised by the show. The number one was driving me crazy too, still don’t know the answer. What annoys me is it swamping the channels with banality. Where’s Magnum PI gone, or dodgy 60s sitcom, a cult movie. Late nite TV is now just a daft bint waffling about nothing to me, and I can get that when my girlfriend wakes up =)


  9. Never mind the crap whats the feckin answer

  10. Seb Says:

    “Nineteen minus five
    6 + 3 x 2
    10 + 6″

    I saw one like this the other day. Multiplications and divisions always take precedence but I bet they remake up the rules of math to suit their needs.

  11. ITV Says:

    what a loser! why spend all your time writing about it, if it pisses you off that much – turn it off!
    I happen to know someone who works on the show – the calls are picked at random by a computer, the caller gets through when the computer allows them at random intervals.
    No shit its about making money out of us, what isn’t these days?!
    They don’t make up the rules, they just use a cryptic method of coming up with the answer. It isn’t a scam, theres a little thing called OFCOM which investigate these kind of shows, and have a very strict criteria of the answers – a majority of the audience MUST be able to work them out, so it is ‘do-able’.
    My suggestion to you is to get a life and maybe some anger management, if a TV show ‘infuriates’ you, then you’ve got issues mate.
    I’m sorry you can’t handle the future of television, you should get used to it though; soon everything will be interactive “call to select the ending of coronation street” is in the pipeline.
    sweet dreams.

  12. stan Says:

    OFCOM are the people who closed down loads of these companies not so long ago – I know all about them. Like, they found in a lot of cases the phone was just left ringing for up to half an hour at a time, whilst the presenters pretended no-one was calling.

    The program infuriates me, and others like me (see the comments) but I don’t let it bother my daily life (although, as you are aware, I clearly don’t seem to have one). I don’t go around fuming about this, but on the occasions where I run out of lap dancers and cocaine and I actually have to watch TV I’d rather see a dodgy old Hammer Horror than a thinly disguised con.


  13. Hahaha. The day The Mint becomes the future of television is the day I grow a cock out of my knee.

    There’s a reason it’s given the shit late night slot. I’ll let you speculate the reason for that, “ITV”. ;) )

    BTW, are any of the male presenters not flamboyant gays? I’ve noticed it becoming kind of a pattern when I’ve flicked past it over the weeks. ¬¬


  14. ITV only formed ITV Play because of their long financial problems which originally formed ITV 2, 3 and 4. They have even bumped the cost of the call up to 75p now, obviously 60p wasn’t providing enough. The Mint Mansion isnt a mansion its a set and its housed at ITV Play’s department at the Maidstone Studios. Time to get down there, force the production of ZZZap! back into business and burn everything (including the presenters) from “The Mint” working class common english low socitiec crap.

  15. james Says:

    Speaking of BBC3 & 4, I would like to heartily endorse Rob Brydon’s Annually Retentive and Charlie Brooker’s Screenwipes. Excellent viewing!

    It’s interesting that they have to put the presenter’s name before the title of the show. Obviously so people know that it might not just be some crappy BBC-digital show if it has x involved somehow.

  16. tom lowe Says:

    my fucking comment is perfect for that stupid game show it makes me laugh to think that i even rang them up and waisted my basterd money for no reason it is all one BIG con!!!

  17. Greg Says:

    You don’t have to enter with a phone call, you nincompoops . You can use the internet and enter for free at the link below. I believe they MUST offer a free entry mechanism by law, otherwise they are running a lottery and not a competition, BUT they are figuring that most people are too stupid/lazy to realise this. And of course, they are!

    Only stupid weak-minded chavs who don’t have a computer or internet connection are are too stupid to realise this are paying 60p. A fool and his money are soon parted.

    http://quizmania.eckoh.com/

  18. trev Says:

    This is a real scam
    I phoned up 6 times in 4 minutes they are clever cos the message is really short. Also I think they should give a precentage to charity. If they can afford to give away 50,000 in prizes then i assume each night they are taking over 100,000 in call costs. The presenters are complete unknowns and probably get paid a pittance. Get this gambling crap of the TV!

  19. trev Says:

    ITV you are the loser defending this utter shite!

  20. dazhatesitvplay Says:

    i cannot agree more with the majority of comments left here, its a farce that itv are raking it in with this shite show. all night, no adverts, [which id rather watch], not that the quality of tv they produce is any good anyway. stupid questions or puzzles, lettin people ring in with false hopes, i would love to see it banned. waste of good air time, they could put anything on instead and it would be better. further more, they had the cheek to put the cost of calling up, the animationsare cheesy, the presenters are gay or tarts, both if were talkin about ex big brother people, and, to the person who posted from itv,,, you idiot if its not a scam to you, then i pity you, its the biggest scam ever on tv, its been goin on for years, just like any premium phone-in competition that you get on tv.

  21. dazhatesitvplay Says:

    fucking annoying fucking con, ofcom, please get rid

  22. clo and bo Says:

    Lastnite we stayed up watching the Mint for 2 hours and they prob had about 50 + ppl ring in a no one could get the answer to:
    Add the numbers:

    Nineteen minus five =
    4+ 3×2 =
    6-5 =

    We thought of working out the answers to the sums and then adding the answers together cumin to 25, was that the answer…. was it fuck. So failing to get the right answer that time we tried agen thinking the bastards could be tricking us, so we looked into the question a little deeper and thought about adding just the numbers 4 +3+2+6+5 totalling to 20, where we right that time? were we fuck. We listened to ppl come up with answers like 2465 and 12654 and loads of other random shit but after 2 hrs still noone could get it. Sat here now we still dont kno the fucking answer bcos we couldnt be assed to sit there and watch these fuckers scam ne more ppl. It is a load of fucking donkey dick.

    And wat takes the piss even more is that if sumoone does by complete fluke get the answer to that they have a chance of playing the mint where u have to guess a sequence of 3 numbers. Big fucking whoop it gives u one number to help u out there could be a million possible answers. The scamming cunts!
    i think we need quizmania bak atleast ppl were winning money and the presenters werent all ass munchers.

    Down with the Mint.

  23. stan Says:

    Wow… see, for the first time in ages I have to go without the Internet for a month and suddenly my site becomes a hotspot for the anti-The Mint-league. Thanks for all the comments guys, and if anyone hears what the answer to this number ‘quiz’ is please post it – I’m dying to try and figure out how they got to it.

  24. katie Says:

    just wanna know if anyone has the answer to the math question last night.The Nineteen minus five =
    4+ 3×2 =
    6-5 =

    would apreciate it if anyone who knows would say thanx

  25. Alex Says:

    Nineteen minus five =
    4+ 3×2 =
    6-5 =

    Amazingly, even though this has been on every nyt since the last comment there still hasn’t been a correct answer to this!
    How much money have itv made by having this on for almost a month without a single correct answer?
    Are there even any answers left that haven’t been guessed?

    There must be an answer, i wonder what there excuse for the reasoning behind it will be?
    Will the person that phones it in have got to it using logic or by some drunken guess?

    Yes please somebody, when the final answer is found please post it here or somewhere

  26. Alex Says:

    (sorry for all grammar/spelling errors in previous post)

  27. Minted My Arse Says:

    14101..thats the answer

  28. Minted My Arse Says:

    Sorry 141041

  29. james Says:

    how did they get to that number?

  30. zuppaman Says:

    It’s like this:

    Nineteen minus five = 14
    4+ 3×2 = 10
    6-5 = 1

    If you place the results after each other : 14101
    Did anyone see them give the solution at the end of the show ? because I was to tired to wait for this anoying program to end.

  31. Lardarse Says:

    The obvious answers (25, 29, 44, 14101, 14141, 14, 10, 1) have all been tried, several times, as well as a lot of not so obvious answers… They never give the answer to this puzzle out. That’s what annoys me the most. Wouldn’t it be ironic, if the answer to this puzzle is the combination that unlocks the mint. That gives you 100 numbers to go for (current combination is 70**)

    They had that word game again on tonight’s program. The 3 unguessed words, following UP were updo, upgo, and upbrixle. Is upbrixle actually a word??? Google returns 2 hits, and 1 of those is a user page on Wiktionary (Wkikpedia’s dictionary sister-site) listing all of the words that are in the Oxford English Dictionary and the American Heritage Dictionary, for inclusion into Wiktionary. Surprise surprise, there’s no entry for upbrixle yet.

    Bring on the OFCOM investigation now please. After you reveal the contents of that fucking envelope, and your reasons for how you came up with that answer…

  32. Lardarse Says:

    And hello to everyone in the future who Googles for the word upbrixle in the near future and finds this discussion… :-)

  33. Fuming Says:

    Just watched the Mint and nobody could find the answers which were revealed as Upbrixel, Upgo, Updo – who the hell’s heard of any of those? A complete rip-off, aimed at enticing the poor and getting them into more debt. I rang once and was told my call had been unlucky, just like the NO Deal scam which makes callers ring and ring before they are accepted on to a waiting list. It’s so that they ring more than once and clock up huge bills trying to get accepted into the game. I think this should be illegal.

  34. Liam Says:

    I have to agree with every “bad” comment posted, this “show” (if that is what we can call it), is a complete farse! The answers could be hundreds of combinations, these gameshows shouldn’t be allowed to clog up our tv channels. They are encouraging gambling on a huge scale, just by ringing the number you are charged and by the time you know it you have a huge phone bill in just a few hours. I bet there are some people ringing in every night it is on, trying to win the “amazing” cash prize.

    PS: I think you may have to add the amount of letters together, i am sure they are there for a reason, but as i say, there are hundreds of different combinations!!

  35. Matt Says:

    these shows are fucking ridiculous.
    We’ve got the same format shows in Australia, on every commercial station from midnight till about 3, with the sad arsed presenters, who spend half the time in bikini’s trying to get more viewers to watch.
    I agree with the other people here, and think these shows should all piss off.

  36. Gary Says:

    I had the misfortune to have to take my infant son to A&E at 2 o’clock in the morning 3 days ago (happily he is alright now and probably wondered what all the fuss was about).

    Now if sitting in A&E wasn’t fucking bad enough, imagine my joy at my first exposure to late night ITV in a long while.

    Guess what? That same fucking puzzle was on! I sat there watching it on the hospital tv for what seemed like a lifetme. The people running A&E are absolute bastards, because under the best of circumstances the minimum wait in A&E is something ridiculous like 3 hours which normally feels like 33 hours. But forcing us to watch ITV Play in A&E at 3 o’clock in the fucking morning? What cunts! I swear the clock went backwards.

    Did I see anyone solve the puzzle? There is no prize for guessing if anyone got the fucking answer. And there is no prize either for guessing if they gave the answer at the end. This puzzle has now by the look of things been running for a fucking month. Meanwhile ITV is screwing its viewers. And they wonder why everyone thinks ITV is nothing more than a steaming pile of turd!

  37. Jonn Says:

    Sad to read that some of you guys hate this show coz some of the presenters are gay, or seem gay.

    I am gay, and i fucking HATE this show with all my heart, so to see other people hate it too is cool, but it feels wierd to have people hate it coz there are gays in it.

    Anyway…….HELLO LARDARSE

    I found this page thanks to me typing in the word UPBRIXLE on Google, WHAT A FUCKING RIP OFF.
    I mailed just now a complaint to ITV and ITVPlay and OFCOM about this show, any response I get I’ll share.

  38. Ria whittington Says:

    Just to add, I have NEVER heard anyone get through on a free web entry. It is merely window dressing so that these rip off merchants look as though they are complying with the law. Why would free web entry be any good to them? They want your calls at 75p a throw, they need your calls at 75p a throw.

    Me pay nearly a pound a call? You must be joking. I am no mug. I don’t care how much they are offering…

  39. Ria whittington Says:

    LOL we should start a campaign to get these shows off our tvs

  40. Lex Says:

    Taken from ‘thisismoney.co.uk’ – 29th August 2006

    TV quiz shows fall foul of gaming laws
    Jack Lefley, Evening Standard
    29 August 2006

    TELEVISION quiz shows where viewers have to call premium-rate phone numbers to try to win big-money prizes could be closed amid fears that callers are running up large phone bills.
    A number of interactive quiz channels may be shut down following investigations by regulators and a rise in complaints.

    The channels are watched by up to a million people every night, with presenters asking viewers to phone in and answer a simple question to win prizes of as much as £100,000. Eleven quiz channels receive up to 20,000 calls a day with callers – only a few of whom get past recorded messages – typically spending 60p to 75p.

    ITV Play is the best known of the channels because it is shown on ITV1 after midnight, but others include Big Game TV and Avago.

    Gambling legislation requires any game that has an entry fee but involves little skill to be run as a lottery. This means that those running it should have a licence and give one fifth of the revenue to charity. ITV does not have a licence, but bosses are using a loophole by offering free entry via a website and calling the games ‘prize competitions’.

    ITV Play, which has shows including The Mint, was launched in April and produced £9m in profits in its first four months. Big Game TV was raided by police following claims that phone calls were not being answered for up to two hours. The channel denies the accusations.

    Investigations into quiz channels have been promised by broadcasting regulator Ofcom and Icstis, the regulator of premium-rate phone services. The channels could be forced to close by the Gambling Commission if they are found to have breached the 1976 Lotteries And Amusements Act. In a recent consultation document it hinted that laws due to come in next September will be stricter.

    An ITV spokeswoman said that the channel’s programmes exceeded all regulatory guidelines, adding: ‘ITV is a responsible broadcaster and we take this position very seriously.’

  41. keith Says:

    does anybody know of a site that tells you what numbers have already been given for the vault

  42. barry Says:

    upbrixle….hahahahahaha

  43. anomymous Says:

    the answer is 34.
    nineteen minus five = 14
    4+3×2 or (4+3+2) = 9
    6-5 or ( 6+5) = 11
    since it says ADD the (numerical) numbers and the literal ones aren’t figured, so, 14 + 9 +11 = 34. I have tried three times to ring but wasnt accepted. If you happen to win using this config… my contact is given. cheers

  44. anomymous Says:

    heard it, 34 is not sorry….

  45. zerodenial Says:

    Your answer is wrong try again….
    You are being inconsistant by not ignoring “minus”
    How about 55?
    20 from adding the digits and nine+nineteen+five

  46. Syfoon Says:

    The “Nineteen minus five…” question is back (which is how I found this page, by Googling that to see if anyone else had been complaining ;) ).

    Surely this question alone proves that these kind of shows are complete scams. In my drunken TV channel hopping, I’ve seen this kind of question shown on loads of different ones, one even had 25x the regular money which equalled to about half a million quid for anyone who’d get it right.

    Says it all really.

    OFCOM really need to get of their arses and make this drivel stop. I miss late-night ITV, especially after Grand Prix weekends as we don’t get re-runs of the full race anymore. Highly annoying.

  47. JunkI Says:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dmn/Mintpuzzle

    The site above lists a whole host of wrong answers given to the question.

    I just can’t wait to find out what the answer is and see how they justify it, The Mint is a F***ing scam and lowers what is already a pretty pi*s poor network.

  48. JunkI Says:

    Tonights Prize was a Possible !!! £45,000

    So for them to Break Even

    Prize: £45000
    Call Cost : £0.60

    45000/0.60 = 75000 calls needed

  49. Mark Bellew Says:

    I am absolutely fucking filled with anger at he UK broadcast MINT MANSION porogram about basically ripping poor people off. Now dont get me wrong if it was fair fine, but i tested the show out with a trial 100 call at 75p a call and never got through one. 5 secs and bang sorry phone back again……..UUUURRRRRGGGG I AM FFFFFUCCKKKING RAGING at these lowlife cast off people who front the show. Poofy Brian Dowling of BIG BROTHER so called Fame for saddos. Some bimbo ex models who havent worked for years cause there past it and have to much curves and creases on their arse and face.

    Most intellligent people can see thru it but it is probably the poor desperate people clutching at straws that are drawn into the trap and end up spending as i did on the trial £75.00 + the V.A.T. on that…….and there are all the kids who use there parents phones on the fly….i could go on but you get my drift folks.!

    Has anyone got any idea what the channels are to speak to someone at ITV to start a civil case to get them put off air as they are basically robbing the public and less intelligent. Lets face it is no one rang up there would be no show. Fucking good that would be. Anyone have any numbers to ring to get through to ITV CENTRE.

    CONNING BASTARDS!!!!!

    Rgds Mark

  50. cat Says:

    aren’t they referring to songs when they say ‘numbers’? ie add the songs

  51. Jax Says:

    3 words… DON’T DO IT!!

    Being the gambling, insomniac sort, I gave it a go. After watching for some time, I’ve can safely say that they throw in one or two obvious answers in the word games to give the impression that you stand a chance… wrong!

    One game on the other night had HOT__ as the clue. They gave the clue that it was a part of the body ensuring that thousands of people phoned in with Hot head, Hot foot, Hot lips, etc.. and the answer?… HOT SKULL ?!!! If you’ve heard of that one, do let me know…

  52. Jax Says:

    ps. to answer the previous comment – the show is broadcast from the maidstone studios so I forsee a picket outside…

  53. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    Due to not being able to sleep the other night I found myself watching the mint with this very question all night

    Nineteen minus five =
    4+ 3×2 =
    6-5 =

    I found it totaly disgusting that they are just simply playing tricks on people to rob the of their money. I will just bet that this question will pop back up and to be fair I do not believe there is one right answer to it as before thy could even consider giving away that sort of cash £45000 they would have to take a few hunderd thousand calls to make a profit. And it not like that tv isnt already full of the same old dribble that you have to ring in and vote making the tv companies more money and this is even worse when the BBC are up to it also dont they already get enough via the TV license robbin sods all of them and if people power ment anything we could by not calling these programs change TV for the better.

    Steve

  54. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    Contact Details

    ITV Play
    PO Box 49756
    London
    WC1X 8WN
    Phone: 0845 014 7529 (10am – 8pm, Monday – Friday)
    Email: itvplay@itv.com

    Time to complain direct

  55. upforages Says:

    can anyone help me with the ones last night that were OUT _______ something.
    i got up to Outbound and outcome. I was sooooo tempted to ring up. As ive just come back from Australia and now skint! But i dont pay the phone bill, so would be wrong of me.
    I was thinking of OUT of this world. And to my knowledge nobody had said that! But i couldnt keep my eyes open any longer! sorry, i know im a sad case! haha.

  56. Daf Says:

    The “add the numbers” quiz has been on for a month or so.

    As much as I dislike this type of tv, the “add the numbers”
    game is more of a con than the rest. The presenters make
    it look like the answer is easy. They deliberately try to trick
    viewers into thinking the answer is obtainable. They say “if
    you’ve just tuned in, try now” – ie, please call and give us the
    obvious answer.
    Complaining to Ofcom is easy online, and I’d suggest you all
    do it. There is something in the guidlines that say the answer
    has to be possible to get, so with this “quiz” I think they might
    uphold a complaint.
    I did complain, but my objection was denied, I just think the more people who contact ofcom about this, the more chance
    of getting rid of it.

    Also check:
    http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/printthread.php?t=360273&page=105&pp=25
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=51792635#post51792635

  57. southamptonfc Says:

    I saw that last night, I thought outer, outing. Neither which were said but would I phone in – would i fuck!

    The thing that made me very suspicious is that the lower prizes got won first and no-one won the the higher money prizes that I saw.

    outcome and outbound were the lowest money prizes and 4 other answers remained. How easy would it be to fix it though so the first ‘correct’ answers always won the least money prizes? Too easy and thats why I think its a con and should be thoroughly investigated by ofcom and police.

    If the higher money prizes were won first it wouldn’t be nearly so tempting to phone in – again I smell a fix.

    Also, are plurals allowed? past tenses etc etc? what a load of shit.

  58. Rupert Says:

    Dude, that “nineteen minus five=4+3X2=6-5=” thing is driving me insane. I saw it the other night and I was dying to see the answer the were going to give, so I kept flicking back and forth waiting fot the show to end so they would reveal the big mystery. Towards the end of the show, I was ready to smash my tv. I just couldn’t stad listening to another caller say some crazy number like 21394593450436546456452 and watching the presenter cringe with false anticipation- knowing full well that in about two seconds, a big metal bar would slam into the screen with a mesage like “UNLUCKY” or “TRY AGAIN”. I stayed up all night (I don’t know why) waiting for the answer to that vague, nonsensical bullshit riddle and now I still don’t know it. I like knowing things. What a waste of time… What a scam.

    P.s. how many people guessed 20? I mean, for fuck sake, there’s a thing called the process of elimination. Use it.

  59. Jax Says:

    As anonymous (above) says, I think the number quiz revolves around the method of adding everything, eg.4+3+2+ and so on and the answer I have hasn’t been given yet so I think it’s correct but I’m certainly not phoning in!

  60. Jon Says:

    What a surprise they’ve got the NINETEEN MINUS FIVE = on again tonight, reason for this is that they are probably going to be giving the mint away sometime this month and need to make some cash to pay for it. This will then allow them to give another mint away around Xmas/New year.

    All this show does is pay out a small percentage of the money made from the calls, if they’ve paid out too much, they put a nigh-on impossible puzzle on to rake in more cash.

    Now it isn’t TOO bad of a show when they’re actually giving away money on puzzles on a regular basis, ie £1,000 a puzzle or something, as to actually give people a tiny chance of winning some of their phone bill back, but when they’re just sucking cash in for the entire night without paying anything out, then it’s just plain wrong. All these shows that are doing this should be taken off the air.

  61. Chris Says:

    fucking annoying!!! ahhhhhhhhhhh!!! i hate the presenters the most. how desperate are they. they just repeat the same sentence evry 10 secs. By 4am they look so washed up that they wish they had’nt given up their day jobs. i mean i’d love to be on TV but I would never do this, as if they’re gonna become anymore famous then this. they are losers like the show. I’ll tell u the most annoying woman on telly-she presents the identical quiz on channel 5 early in the morning and she keeps walking forwards and backwards toward the camera while simultaneously the camerman zooms in and out on her if it wasn’t bad enough already they start getting your head monged out with this stupid yo yo shit. Who is that woman ….she should be sacked and banned from ever appearing on TV. Have a look yourself I know you’ll agree.

  62. Chris Says:

    Oh yeah I wish someone would get through for a laugh and instead of giving an answer when they get on air they should say to the presenter that they think the show is a con and that they are gonna be reported to OFCOM etc and slam the phone down. I would pay 75 p just to see that!

    I ‘d love to see the look on the presenters face (they”re all in on it like a big conspiracy the bastard!s)

  63. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    NINETEEN MINUS FIVE scam back again I so wish someone would pull the plug on this program I have sent about 8 complaints into OFCOM now.

    Steve

  64. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    Well I have an answer of ITV PLAY………

    Dear Mr Holdsworth,

    Thank you for your email.

    We completely realise that the ‘add the numbers’ puzzle has run on for a long time but it we’ll keep it on until someone has won the prize! As it’s a rollover the prize money has gone as high as £60,000 – a huge amount for a single puzzle and one that we’ll be delighted to give away. We can’t simply give the answer or take it off – someone must and will solve it and win a massive amount of money.

    The puzzle has one answer and one answer only. Although I don’t know the answer I’d say it is not a straightforward maths sum. To solve it you need to study what the question is asking and view it exactly as it appears on the screen. We are not changing the answer or being duplicitous in any way, we really want to give this money away!

    Just in case, here it is again.

    Add the numbers

    NINETEEN MINUS FIVE =
    4 + 3 x 2 =
    6 – 5 =

    Best of luck,

    Kyl
    ___________________________________________________

    Why do I get the idea that the ranting and raving email i sent calling them cheat and con artists didnt really get through their thick skulls as from you can see they had the cheek to email the puuzzle over and wish me good look like i was daft enough to ring their bloody show all i want to see is the pile of poo of the air.

    Steve

    ITV Play Viewer Care

    Tel: 0845 014 7529

    Address: PO Box 49756, London, WC1X 8WN

    Email: itvplay@itv.com

    ***Freeview channel 35 and now on Sky channel 856***

  65. Jayne Says:

    I can’t believe that the stupid numbers puzzle is still going. I only started watching this when I had a baby and he wouldn’t sleep at night. I could exaggerate and say he is now 10 years old but he is really only 4 months. Thats how old this puzzle is. Work out how much money they have taken in this time. Complete rip off!! But if someone does win tonight and I am asleep, please post the answer here

  66. SamsonJ Says:

    Y’know something, lads – the only thing that would make this show bearable (even with the “nineteen minus five” crap which has been on for nearly two months) would be if the female presenters Kat Shoob and Cat Porter actually presented the show together in bikinis or something. At least then it’d be worth watching or even taping – who would give a fuck about the puzzle? :P

    Come to think of it, ITV should make them do that. Maybe they’d even get more viewers calling in just to say hello to the fit birds! Puzzle or not, they’d still get their paychecks cashed. Losers either way.

  67. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    I have read one good suggestion on another site and that was that if they put up on screen the amount of callers they where having and how many are on hold at one point it would be closer to gambeling as you would know the odds (even though they would move all the time)as to if your likely to get through or on hold. All other gambeling has odds why dont these quiz programms i will tell you whey they dont have odds cos if they did you would just see how outside your change is of winning so in a last efort to get the show off tv PEOPLR stop ringing in.

    Steve

  68. Tom Starkie Says:

    I have been studying the ITV MINT site http://www.themint.tv/
    On there they have rules at the top
    http://www.themint.tv/rules.jsp
    Comparing these to the ITV PLAY site
    http://play.itv.com/
    Click on the mint there and the terms and conditions again
    http://www.itv.com/page.asp?partID=5512
    I cant believe how totally decieving it is. On the play site it states that it is 100 entries per household per day but on the mint site its all very confusing but it boils down to it being maximum 100 entries per day and no more than 200 in total per month(12 & 26) I think there will be many refused pay outs through people not understanding these massive T&C’s. Many people will just see the 100 entries per day and only find out once they win and don’t get it.

    Quizmania could be under question too seeing as its run by the same people. That again says 100 per day on the actual terms and conditions you click on the actual web entry but the pop up that comes up on the terms and conditions of the main quizmania site
    http://www.quizmania.tv/ is massive again and really small I just can’t go through it.

    Regards

    Tom.

  69. Claire Says:

    I feel cleansed to know I’m not the only one who is getting more and more frustrated with this nineteen minus five shit! Dont get me wrong I love a good puzzle but enough is enough. I actually don’t mind the presenters they are just doing a job, but it’s the whole premise behind the scam that i don’t appreciate. We can all get a bit desperate no matter how much we know the odds are stacked against us, but what about all those people who are desperate and havent got the will power not to ring? maybe if the people who front this show were to read all of these messages they might show a bit of a concience and leave……..but like I said I don’t mind them but I’m not holding out much hope for a bunch of no hopers who prey of innocent people who are at there wits end about to get there phones cut off because they’ve made 80 odd calls an hour for four hours and owe hundreds of pounds, ah well spose they could always ring the mint to win the money to clear there bill…hmmm I see a pattern emerging…..

    Claire.x

  70. Tom Starkie Says:

    Yet again another scam.

    Nineteen minus five =
    4+ 3×2 =
    6-5 =

    People miss the easiest thing thats staring them in the face, the number is a .5, the last line 6-5 means a number between, 5.5 is the answer. But nobody ever says a decimal.

    It was won once, thats how i know how its done.

    Tom_

  71. mof Says:

    To those who are asking what answer is. The puzzle hasn’t yet been solved and is put back up every week until it is won with more money added each time it is re-used. It is sad that ITV have resorted to that number scam. It was bad enough with the word puzzle but at least they were almost reasonable.
    Anyone who want to complain to OFCOM about The Mint please do at ofcom.org.uk. It is a very easy process.

  72. Jim walker Says:

    NINETEEN MINUS FIVE =
    4+ 3x” =
    6-5 =

    Not to difficult, the “answer” is in the question – add the numbers.
    Most muppets ring in give 20 or 44 – WRONG!!
    Read the bloody quaetion!!!

    I KNOW the answer but cannot get through to the Mint for love nor money. Tried again last night for 140 tries, no success.

    I will give you a clue – it is NOT lower then 400 .

    Keep calculating.

    Jim

  73. Clement of Alexandria Says:

    Possibly it’s literally adding the numbers on the screen, ignoring the maths signs and the written numbers:

    432 + 65 = 497

    or, if they include 19 and 5, then it would be 19 + 5 + 432 + 65 = 521, something lateral thinking like that.

    Somebody go to the office at night, call until you get through at your employer’s expense, win the money and cut me in for 10%. Proof of my ID: law, embassy, porn, CRM, alternative bible, Military District of Washington, storm. (You’ll see.)

    I was not allowed to watch ITV as a kid but caught The Prisoner, The Avengers, Callan and UFO when the parents were out.

  74. Clement of Alexandria Says:

    With regard to the long-running word puzzle, check the easy ones they sometimes put at the start of the programme to lure you in, where the answer to the 9-letter puzzle usually jumps off the screen at you. In the less obvious one the words ‘mope’, ‘pet’, ‘tend’ and ‘sage’ suggest themselves, with ‘pete’ being a possible answer, or pâté (pâté/pate has been tried).

    ITV will claim in their defence that it is just a big lottery, at 75p a shot. If they are making a million quid a night, over, say four hours = 14400 seconds, that might suggest about 70 people calling every second. So if you throw £50 at it you might get through. Obviously only do so if you are reasonably certain of the answer. They make their money from drunks and chancers having a go with obvious (and wrong) answers on the more difficult puzzles, along with the ambiguous puzzles whose answers could be randomly chosen.

    On Mastermind you get a glass bowl.

  75. Clement of Alexandria Says:

    One other thing, some weeks ago, before they knew that the word puzzle would run, one of them said that ‘a chef’ might get the answer. I thought of sago pudding and words ending in ‘o’ for the answer but later thought of pâté.

    The presenters are not supposed to know the answers, but no one could contain their curiosity that long.

  76. Clement of Alexandria Says:

    BTW the decimal suggestion (above) is a good one. V. possible: Bev told us to ‘think outside the box’ (no pun intended, Mr Horne). She also pointed to the box with the numbers in it and said: ‘This is the box’.

    Perhaps you have to add all the existing numbers from 1-9, ignoring the puzzle!

    Lord Reith would be well pleased.

  77. Clement of Alexandria Says:

    With regard to the ‘Out’ puzzle, perhaps the following Peter Hammill song will help. In fact it ought to be the Mint’s theme tune:

    A Way Out

    Out of joint, out of true,
    out of love, out of the blue,
    out of order, out of orbit, out of control,
    out of touch, out of line,
    out of sync and out of time,
    out of gas, out of tread,
    out of road.

    Out of date, out of stock,
    out of use – out, out, damned spot!
    You want out, you want out of it for good.
    Out of the running, out of the game,
    out on your feet, clear out of range,
    out of context, out of contact,
    out of the woods.

    Out, out, looking for a way out,
    no straws are left to cling to;
    out, out, going for the fade-out…
    but what do you fade into?

    Out on the town, out for laughs,
    out of service, out to grass,
    out of mourning, out of purdah, out on bail,
    out of kilter, out of grace,
    out to get out of this place,
    out of this world, out and out
    beyond the pale.

    Right out of character, out of sympathy,
    so far out upon a limb
    you’re out of your tree….

    Out of breath, out of tune,
    out of your head and out of view,
    down and out, out for the count, or is it just for revenge?
    Out of sight, out of mind,
    leave it out, leave it behind
    out of reach of all family, all friends.

    Out, out, going for the bale-out,
    no parachute above you.
    Out, out…you’ll not feel the fall-out.

    I wish I’d said “I love you”.

    (Queen Elizabeth Hall, 4th October. Campaign for Real Music.)

  78. Clement of Alexandria Says:

    Actually, on second thoughts:

    Sometimes it’s very scary here, sometimes it’s very sad,
    sometimes I think I’ll disappear; betimes I think I have.
    There’s a line snaking down my mirror,
    splintered glass distorts my face
    and though the light is strong and strange
    it can’t illuminate the musty corners of this place.
    There is a lofty, lonely, Lohengrenic castle in the clouds;
    I draw my murky meanings there
    but seven years’ dark luck is just around the corner
    and in the shadows lurks the spectre of Despair.

  79. Clement of Alexandria Says:

    Let’s see Brian and Bev dance and mime to that.

  80. Clement of Alexandria Says:

    Slight revision to guestimate about number of calls per second (75p + VAT). I forgot that BT takes a cut of said 75p, so the number of calls might be more like 100 per second, depending on the precise time of night.

  81. David B. Says:

    Clement’s figures are a bit awry- we know from financial results published last month that ITV Play profits are about a third of total revenue (9 million quid out of 27 million in its first part-year of operation). Therefore if the aim is 20 million a year profit, the revenue would have to be 60 million. Giving the company an average cut of 60p per call over its first year (probably rather more in future years at the new 75p rate) they’d need 100,000,000 calls to make that revenue, or 274,000 every day / 11,400 an hour / 190 a minute / a mere 3-and-a-bit every second. Mind you, given the number of seconds filled with inane prattling, and the small number of contestants who actually get on air, that’s still a heck of a lot.

  82. Clement of Alexandria Says:

    Excellent, thanks for that. I read the one million figure in a mag or on the web and just took it at face value.

    Another idea: someone working at ITV should call from the office and win the money. (On the other hand, perhaps ITV employees are excluded. Nice idea, though.)

    Hey, BBC Watchdog and Channel 5’s MacIntyre’s Big Sting: you could afford it.

  83. Clement of Alexandria Says:

    ‘Wait…there’s more…’

    (Mr Creosote: ‘Monty Python’s Meaning of Life’, prior to vomiting and exploding)

    An addendum to my 432 + 65 theory: you might also have to add the numbers after the = sign, which might be said to be literally outside the box: e.g. the answers to:

    19 – 5
    4 + (3×2) or (4+3) x 2
    6 – 5

    Thus, 497 + 29, or one of the other combinations.

    The fact that 4 + 3 x 2 means nothing without the brackets might lend support to my 432 + 65 theory.

    The worst such nonsense I have seen was ‘Count the diamonds’. Several playing cards overlapping with some partially obscured. There were diamonds within the diamonds, and the diamonds also formed diamond formations!!!! Philosophers and barristers could have argued for years over the interpretation. No doubt Descartes would have deduced the existence of God from this, as a ‘diamond geezer’.

  84. David B. Says:

    Hmmm- Watchdog and Big Sting may not need to spend a lot of money if they time their action right. For a start, if it can be demonstrated that the show presenters are deliberately giving the impression that there is a shortage of calls, in order to encourage punters to spend another 75p ***at times when nearly all of, say, 20 test callers in rapid succession from different phones are failing to get selected*** there may be a case for a fraud action under either civil or criminal law.

  85. Clement of Alexandria Says:

    Obtaining a pecuniary advantage by deception (1968 Theft Act with later amendments)? Very possibly. They stand around waffling most of the time, and occasionally the sound of a phone (bell) ringing is heard by the viewer. Sometimes they refer to ‘taking more calls than usual’, so ITV would probably say that they are indicating that they do not take all calls. Perhaps they should say: ‘taking’ more callers than usual

  86. stan Says:

    As I understand it, the ‘computer’ selects calls at random. Think of it like a gate – you call, and it’s like you throw something at the gate and it bounces away. If you’re lucky, the gate will open at the same time as you throw something at it, and you’ll get through and you’ll be on the air.

    Thanks everyone, as well, for all these great comments – it’s really good to know that everyone else hates this bloody TV show too!

  87. Mike Says:

    Firstly, quoting from an earlier post
    “Ria whittington Says:
    August 29th, 2006 at 10:02
    Just to add, I have NEVER heard anyone get through on a free web entry. It is merely window dressing so that these rip off merchants look as though they are complying with the law. Why would free web entry be any good to them? They want your calls at 75p a throw, they need your calls at 75p a throw.

    Me pay nearly a pound a call? You must be joking. I am no mug. I don’t care how much they are offering… ”

    I can now assure you that after 3 wins in 5 weeks (including one of £5000) that this is untrue, the web entry system does work, I personally believe the chances of getting through are less than those of callers using the premium rate number, but they are none the less there. I will also state at this point (as no doubt there will be comments to this effect levelled at me here) that I am NOT related to the producers, presenters, HRH the Queen, or the crown prince of Outer Mongolia.

    The number puzzle that seems to be causing so much consternation in here might have something to do with Roman numerals (nIneteen MInus fIVe), but how this might fit into the formula, I don’t have a clue at present.

    Maybe if you left this type of show to the people who want to play, and show a little self censorship (there are plenty of other channels, and indeed the big red button marked ‘OFF’) we would all get along a lot better.

  88. jim Says:

    Admit that THE MINT numbers problem is a great money spinner. Most muppets, over the past 5 weeks that it has been on, give 20 or 44. They must never watch the show. The numbers 20 and 44 are said at LEAST 6 times every night. WRONG.
    As for trying to get through to give your answer – WOW . this in itself is a test of the brain. I tried 100 times, yes 100 in the space of 30 minutes. Never got though. The only reason I did that is that i am 99.9999999% sure I know the answer. It is NOT 20 it is NOT 44 or any other number from 0[zero] to 100.
    So please muppets, next time it is on, keep off the line with answers of 0 13, 20 , and 44 and give me a chance to get the correct answer in.

    JIM

  89. stan Says:

    100 times?? I can’t figure out the number puzzle, but my maths tells me that cost you £75…

  90. rod peters Says:

    they got rid of men&motors on freeview to show this shite.

    and i reply to itv: fucking get your act together and start feeling nostalgic.

    quality tv – highest priority (in theory)

    cheap quizzes – have no place on tv

  91. jim walker Says:

    Not suprising nobody has the puzzle correct. The amount of damn muppets who ring in with the same damn answer of 44, or 20, or 13, or any other damn number between 0 and 100 in icredible. I often wonder if they are watching the same program as me, or have just landed from the planet Zod. Over the past 5/6 weeks since the puzzle has been on, the amount of times the muppets have given 44 & 20 must add into 10’s of 10’s. I counted them both 8 times in one night.
    They are NOWHERE near the right answer. It is not a number between 0 to 100.
    I KNOW the answer but cannot damn well get though to give it. I rang 100 times last Friday, never got though once.

  92. Mike Says:

    Rod, it would seem that you are wrong in your point that these quizzes have no place on TV … they have a huge fanbase on top of their occasional callers, which combined with their moneymaking format makes them every bit as legitimate television as anything else around (including such crap as reality TV).

    Whether you agree with it or not, it looks like these shows are here to stay for a while … live with it (and anything that gets shite like Men and Motors off my TV has my vote anyway)

  93. briandowlingisshifty Says:

    I love and loathe this show at the same time. It is really infuriating and yet strangely addictive. I know it’s complete trash but it does draw me in. The NINETEEN MINUS FIVE puzzle is still going and was on again last night. It is an absolute scam and is surely going to continue for months. The word puzzles (eg SUN_ or OUT_) always follow the same pattern in that 3 fairly easy answers are guessed early on for low sums of money, a more difficult answer is guessed much later on for more money and no-one gets the last 2 answers for the largest sums of money because they are words that no-one has ever heard of. All the time the presenters are encouraging us to call in as if getting through to them is the easiest thing in the world. On the plus side though, a couple of the female presenters are quite fit!

  94. Wendy Says:

    now come on you guys – this is the way to play it – go online, and bring up several pages all with the mint website on. Download a bot to fill in your n+a for you then just go through each page one at a time and fill in the code by hand. Then just sit back and wait for the freephone number and pincode!.

    You are allowed 100 – 150 free goes and on average you get through to the second stage about 5-10 times out of that.

    Of course you still have to get through to the studio – that happens about once every 2-3 days of trying (if that makes sense) – and yes I have got through to the studio quite a few times now on the free entry.

    however I am with everyone else about the numbers one – for the record it is not a minus number or a whole number under 100! If that one comes on now I just switch it off.

    what does make me cringe though is when I hear old people getting through. You just know that they have not used the free entry route and I hate the thought that they have probubly racked up huge amounts of debt without realising. I mean, how many of us have a great Auntie Ethel who wouldnt have a clue how much it was costing her till she got the phone bill?

    So the answer is – play them at their own game, use the website and hopefully you could win – oh, but don’t waste your time on the numbers one though. that one is sssoooooooooo boring.

  95. frankie Says:

    Obtaining a pecuniary advantage
    THEFT ACT 1968
    s16 TA68 states that:

    (1) A person who by any deception dishonestly obtains for himself or another any pecuniary advantage shall on conviction on indictment be liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years.
    (2) The cases in which a pecuniary advantage within the meaning of this section is to be regarded as obtained for a person are cases where:-

    (a) Repealed by s5(5) Theft Act 1978;
    (b) he is allowed to borrow by way of overdraft, or to take out any policy of insurance or annuity contract, or obtains an improvement of the terms on which he is allowed to do so; or
    (c) he is given the opportunity to earn remuneration in an office or employment, or to win money by betting

    (3) For the purposes of this section “deception” has the same meaning as in section 15 of this Ac

  96. frankie Says:

    A Class action is needed on behalf of everyone who had ever been decieved by ringing up. IF you know a sollicitor , contact them. This show is no more legal than the three-card-trick conman that you find on street corners. …… Upbrixle — now thats priceless!

  97. Mike Says:

    As call costs are stated (extortionate though they may be), this takes one of the tenuous points on which the class action could be brought …. as far as the words they use, you may find that they simply have good researchers. The words and phrases they use do actually exist (just because you haven’t heard them before doesn’t mean they didn’t exist before then), but the chances of getting them are very low.

    ITV Play is a company, and companies are there to (surprise, surprise) make a profit, exactly the same way that ‘Who Wants to be a Millionaire’ does (incidentally, they use a per minute premium line, and you have far less chance of getting through to win anything … maybe we should start talking about legal action against them too, or the BBC for giving us nothing for our TV Licence fees).

    This is obviously what people are interested in on late nights, or it would have been cancelled due to ‘lack of interest’.

  98. briandowlingisshifty Says:

    I like your style Wendy! It’s nice to know that some people out there are playing them.
    Just turned ITV on now (am at work) and guess what, that bloody numbers game is on again. Only listening to it for 5 minutes and it’s same old numbers being guessed (20,27,29 etc)
    Frankie, I’m no lawyer, but suspect you wouldn’t have a leg to stand on if you tried to take them to court. There is no way the legal eagles working for ITV would leave themself open to an action of this type.

  99. john iguess Says:

    The correct answer to that queer bitch of a mother fucking itv tax on stoopid people show question, if you are either dumb enough to care or even worse call in, i believe is…
    19-5-14-4-3-2-10-6-5-1
    or
    19-5-14-4-3-2-14-6-5-1
    The reason i believe is that i think i saw the latter given as an answer which was then debated by the cunt presenters and their wanky little ear pieces for quite sometime unlike the usual dismissal of their idiot punters. Therfore i believe the top 1 to be correct!

    I, like many drawn to the flashing lights and circus noises of this soul less hell on earth am suffering from an extended bout of insomnia and for some reason feel the need to see this nonsence resolve itself.
    Those arse munching scumbags have stolen a little piece of my soul.

  100. john iguess Says:

    I apologise for the grammatic mistake in the first sentence of the second paragraph above it is meant to read- The reason i believe this is that…
    Look what they’ve reduced me too its nearly 4am dammit!!

  101. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    I have had a response from OFCOM. They say they have investigated the NINETEEN MINUS FIVE = puzzell as far as they can at the moment and should, when the answer is found feel that it is not a fair and logical conclusion to the puzzell they will then investigate further. As this puzzel has been running now for over 4 months they also suggested in their letter that it could be something to do with Roman numerals.

    Quiz call have got in on the act with this kind of puzzle also

    If people only stopped calling into these shows we could have some decent late night tv back on.

    steve

  102. Ria Whittington Says:

    Firstly, quoting from an earlier post
    “Ria whittington Says:
    August 29th, 2006 at 10:02
    Just to add, I have NEVER heard anyone get through on a free web entry. It is merely window dressing so that these rip off merchants look as though they are complying with the law. Why would free web entry be any good to them? They want your calls at 75p a throw, they need your calls at 75p a throw.

    Me pay nearly a pound a call? You must be joking. I am no mug. I don’t care how much they are offering… ”

    I can now assure you that after 3 wins in 5 weeks (including one of £5000) that this is untrue, the web entry system does work, I personally believe the chances of getting through are less than those of callers using the premium rate number, but they are none the less there. I will also state at this point (as no doubt there will be comments to this effect levelled at me here) that I am NOT related to the producers, presenters, HRH the Queen, or the crown prince of Outer Mongolia.

    The number puzzle that seems to be causing so much consternation in here might have something to do with Roman numerals (nIneteen MInus fIVe), but how this might fit into the formula, I don’t have a clue at present.

    Maybe if you left this type of show to the people who want to play, and show a little self censorship (there are plenty of other channels, and indeed the big red button marked ‘OFF’) we would all get along a lot better.

    Do not patronise me sonny. I will watch whatever I like on my tv which I pay licence for.

    These people have no conscience they rip of the poor and very greedy with their promises of huge cash prizes. Britain now has the biggest owers of debt because of loans etc.

    The fact that so many others agree with me in thread should throw you a few clues.

    Perhaps if you stopped patronising people we’d all get on a lot better.

  103. Ria Whittington Says:

    Btw the new red headed presenter is a bit rough lol

  104. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    Dear Ria,

    It obvious from you mails that you are clearly a junkie of this twpe of Tv program and I use that term loosly. Let look at the fact from a odd point of view you have better odds at a big win on the lotto that you do on quiz tv. They make in excess of 60 grand a night and give away a small portion. Its simple to say that with ITV play predicting massive turn over in its first year how anyone could really think that this is any form of fair contest. I would hazard a guess that they take 1 call in roughly 1000. Again to repeat myself people stop falling for this expensive rip off tv stop calling them and thia alone will put them off the air and then back to some quality TV again.

    Steve

  105. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    Correction its not Ria thats the Quiz TV Junkie its Mike

    Sorry Ria you post didnt read too well I would indent quotes from other people in furure.

    Steve

  106. Mike Says:

    Steven, I would have to disagree with the point that I’m a quiz TV junkie, if that were the case then I would be running up a phone bill of £1000’s, which would not be a good situation at all … I personally participate once every few nights (about the same amount that I watch it, which I would wager is a hell of a lot less than some of the ‘complainants’ do).

    Ria, if it seemed patronising I apologise … but how can you sit there and complain about something being so bad when you sit there and willingly watch it? I personally dislike football, Big Brother, Little Britain, Only fools and horses, and golf … and what do I do when it comes on? I turn the TV over and watch something that I do like, not just sit there watching it and complaining about how much I hate it being on.

    British television import tried and tested programs and formats from abroad on a regular basis … Reality TV, Who wants to be a millionaire, and a host of others have come before … so Quiz TV is the latest format to come over into this country and, like it or not, the TV companies are not going to get rid of such a profitable programming format, especially if they keep it legal, which at the moment it is.

  107. Mike Says:

    Knew I’d miss something out … addition to the ‘Steven’ paragraph:

    I personally participate once every few nights ….. and then only by using the free web entry.

  108. Stevo Says:

    Roman Numerals?? That’s one I bet no-one thought of for the NINETEEN MINUS FIVE question. The fact that its written in upper-case letters to reveal the ‘IV’ for 4 etc… If this is the case, I have to say it is very clever but a trick – question nonetheless.

  109. jim walker Says:

    Stevo,
    You are close………….

  110. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    Mike,

    I agree with you in that if its something you dont like watching switch over but here in is the problem you switch over to another skanking quiz tv program with 3rd rate celebs. And you right we have imported so much other tv from other countries and they too have all been a pile of steaming shite also.

    I suffer insomnia so have no choice but to watch late night tv and in addition for someone to say they dont like a classic british comedy such as only fools I beg to wonder your age.

    Well put also “at the moments its legal” and I hope with all that I can that the laws that are coming into effect will ban such and all programs.

    Another small not on lastnights program for a show that claims they want to give money away their average call rate per hour was 20 and in total last night with only 5 winners i would hate to calculate the odds for that.

    Its Simple THIS IS BRITISH TV AT ITS WORST SKANKING FOOLS OUT OF THEIR MONEY WITH EMPTY PROMMISES OF BIG WINS. You would do better putting your .75p in a jar and at the end of the week spending what you have saved on something useful.

  111. Mike Says:

    Steven

    I assure you that I’m old enough to remember ‘Only Fools and Horses’ on its first run, I just found it annoying when it was initially shown, and still find it such (age 36). I don’t see most of the old ‘classic’ British comedies as classic, most of them (with a few shining exceptions) are similar to the 1950’s pulp science fiction books in my opinion … cheap and throwaway, but I do not berate people for going out and spending money on DVDs of these shows, that I would see as far better spent on other things. Exceptions, most of which are severely dated now are Kenny Everett, Not the nine o’clock news, The young ones and citizen smith.

    Also, with the ardent views shown here, what about high street bookmakers, online casinos, and the like … these also contribute greatly to the society of debt. Some loan and credit card companies offer their wares to anyone and everyone, yet when debt comes from those the usual comment is ‘you shouldn’t have got yourself into it’. Maybe people who can’t afford to make the calls should show the same self control they assume in cases where other companies wave huge sums of cash in front of their faces.

    I would be interested to know how many of the people who are protesting the most vehemently in here regularly participate (or phone with the hope of participating) in Who wants to be a millionaire, or these premium rate competitions that also seem to have become rife nowadays.

  112. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    Mike

    Any and all program that expect you to dial in on a premium rate line are all tarred with the same brush just out to make a quick buck out of Joe sucker. These show that offer these massive prizes that are few are far given away are all the same the pray on the vulnerable , people in trouble hoping that the one call will give them the luck they need. These programs are not only guilty of ripping people off they are also guilty of praying on people dreams.

    Crap like this should not be on the tv to destroy peoples dreams as at the end of the day that is what they are doing and what gets me more they do it with a smile , they make me sick.

    Mike in conclusion I am not going to debate this anymore with you as its clear the type of TV you like the type that doesn’t entertain but just makes empty offers while picking your pocket with a smile.

    Face it Quick TV is TV for the stupid!

    Steve

  113. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    PUT THE MONEY IN THE BANK.

    10 Calls per night £7.50
    7 Nights a Weeks £52.20

    365 Days a Year £2737.50 YOUR A WINNER ON NOT PLAYING QUIZ TV

    100 Calls Per night £75.00
    7 Nights a Week £525.00

    365 Days a Year £27,375.00 YOUR A WINNER NOT PLAYING QUIZ TV

    People do the math at what this is costing you not only in money but your sanity self respect and will to live!

  114. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    Mike Just a comment………

    >I assure you that I’m old enough to remember ‘Only Fools and Horses’ on its first run, I just found it annoying when it was initially shown, and still find it such (age 36). I don’t see most of the old ‘classic’ British >comedies as classic, most of them (with a few shining exceptions) are similar to the 1950’s pulp science fiction books in my opinion

    You would have been 11 when only fools and horses first screened and where the hell do 1950 pulp science fiction books come into this, you made a point of reading them in the eighties thirty years after they had been written. If something written along time ago by definition of the age of writing in your view makes it rubbish I would hate to think what your thoughts on Jules Verne (1828-1905) one of the most influential writers and H.G Wells, (1866-1946) so please don’t harp on about comics in the fifties when you wasn’t even thought off its pretentious of you and totally besides the point. I think an earlier post calling you patronising was close to the mark but by your evaluation of things before your time and making a comparison to the eighties and even to today show a lack of intellect and basically as I say pretentious and someone trying so hard to sound self important but at the end only making themselves look foolish.

  115. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    ALSO….FACTS

    >high street bookmakers, online casinos, and the like

    All these type of places have something called odd that are clearly visable so you know your potential of winning I would love to see the odd of actually getting through on a telephone line and what the odd are on the mark up i would imagine its will be about 1000-1 of getting through and 10000-1 of winning a small prize and 50000-1 of a large prize but you know something these quize TV show will NEVER publish these numbers as then it would be clear to everyone the odds are stacked in their favour and they dont want people knowing that or it would becoem all too clear that they are out just for your cash and what little they give away is a tiny % of what they are making. The keep bragging that since being on the air since april they have given away over 4 million what they dont tell you is that they have made over 15 million already and their projected earning for the whole year is around 27million now be honest can you really agree that what they claim they want to give away reflects in any way the amount they are making of the backs of people to dumb to know better when they are being taken for a ride. I just bet the type of person that calls this show is the one that will get a mail shot saying you have won £250000 just send £20 now for administration costs and guess what they have won f*** all. For god sake even the lottery published its odds something along the lines of 250000-1

    Again WAKE UP PEOPLE SMELL THE ROSES AND WHAT THEY ARE CONNING YOU INTO TOO

    Steve

  116. Mike Says:

    Steven

    Where do you get a comparison between the classic writers of the late 19th and early 20th century and the pulp sci fi books of the 50’s (when the majority of novels were churned out en masse just to have new books on the shelves). The analogue I pointed out was the same mass production of comedies in the late 70’s and early 80’s producing a lot of stuff that wasn’t really worth the airtime, my personal tastes are different from yours, therefore it is more than a little arrogant and pretentious of you to assume because the majority like Only fools and horses, that everyone does.

    Also I do not see what age has to do with tastes, admittedly I didn’t understand som of the humour at the time, but I have watched it since with the same reaction …. it is not to my taste.

    This also has nothing to do with my level of intelligence, or yours for that matter …. simply the way we look at things and understand them, however ’self-important’ as you say in my case, or ’self righteous and ignorant’ as in your reply

  117. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    You mistake ’self righteous and ignorant’ for speaking the truth which is just what I expected but that is your right to put your own spin on things.

  118. Mike Says:

    also quick calculation of the way I do it:

    average per night: 33 entries
    average cost per night: £0.00 (WEB ENTRY)

    average cost per month: £0.00

    average cost per year: £0.00

    winnings to date: £5275

    granted, this is a minority of people who do enter, but web entries do get through and can actually leave you in the green

  119. Mike Says:

    The truth is based on the facts as they are presented, not the facts with extra little bits added (i.e. claiming that I said age made things rubbish, and assuming that people know nothing of things before their time)

    And I certainly do not mistake ignorance for the truth, that seems to be your major error … which, as you say, is a personal right.

  120. Mike Says:

    Sorry Steve, missed this bit on first reading:

    “its clear the type of TV you like”

    Again you make an assumption, I can either take it or leave it, otherwise I would be entering every night and running up a phone bill, but I’m not prepared to do that.

    “Face it Quick TV is TV for the stupid!”

    I assume by that you mean Quiz TV. I point to the figures post from me and ask if actually being over 5 grand in pocket is stupid? I would answer no to that, and even if I had not had a win I would not be out of pocket. People who fall for the presenters’ patter are indeed either greedy, gullible or have enough money not to notice the inordinately high phone bill … I fall into none of these categories.

    Tell you what Steve, if you don’t like it, don’t tune in, buy an ‘Only fools and horses’ DVD and watch that in lieu of these shows that you so revile but seem drawn to watch … I assume you see where I’m going with that one.

  121. Stevo Says:

    For christ’s sake.. would you two ever shut up bickering at each other, you’re like a pair of women!! I can see this going on for weeks!!

  122. briandowlingisshifty Says:

    Keep it up chaps. This is great. As Mike claims to have won over £5K on The Mint he is definitely winning on points at the moment and Steven is going to have to go some to turn that deficit around. Although I think Steven does hold the moral upper hand in that this type of TV show is, in fact, shit.
    P.s Mike – are you Mike from Lancashire? Oh my god, having seen the show several times this week, I’m now starting to recognise the regular callers.

  123. briandowlingisshifty Says:

    Hey Wendy, just heard your little endorsement for the web entry. Spread the word. Keep the faith.

  124. WENDY Says:

    AND JUST TO PROVE YOU CAN GET THROUGH ON WEB ENTRY – ANYONE HEAR ME IN MY 30 SECONDS OF FAME???

  125. briandowlingisshifty Says:

    And again Wendy? You’re on a roll!! How many web entries you have to fill in?

  126. WENDY Says:

    lost count! but its limited numbers so I cant have many left

  127. WENDY Says:

    Actually – now is an excellent time to try as I am getting through to the second stage a hell of a lot at the moment!

  128. WENDY Says:

    WOW! i’m shaking now – told you it was a good time

  129. WENDY Says:

    reached the limit of free entries now – someone elses turn!

  130. briandowlingisshifty Says:

    Hat-trick for Wendy. Unfortunately not a winner though :-( This puzzle has got so many possible answers…grrrr…they better give the answer if no-one gets it. I’ve a feeling this is another one that’s been on before though

  131. WENDY Says:

    I think it has – are you trying the web entry? I was getting trough to the second stage – free phone call – about every 4-5 tries

  132. Mrs X Says:

    won three times on ITV play ( just over a grand total) but struggle to get through to the mint – just once then gave the wrong answer. all with web entries.
    just saw that quizmania has a £10,000 per annum limit on winnings. chance would be a fine thing

  133. WENDY Says:

    what on earth was that answer about?

  134. WENDY Says:

    if you get through – we havnt seen RITE yet – we have been noting down all answers

  135. briandowlingisshifty Says:

    That was funny. He was obviously taking the piss and laughing when he spelt it.

  136. Mike Says:

    Way to go Wendy :)

    and yes Brian, I am indeed Mike from Lancashire :)

  137. briandowlingisshifty Says:

    I reckon VETO.

  138. WENDY Says:

    oh – for the record – its 150 free entries, so I got through 3 times on that – but that is a lot better than my usual record

  139. Mike Says:

    RITE went on one of the previous days Wendy, got a good list going here myself too :)

  140. WENDY Says:

    VETO has been said – sorry

  141. Mike Says:

    VETO is one of the popular guesses from what I’ve seen Bri

  142. WENDY Says:

    thanks – how about DARE

  143. Mike Says:

    I reckon its something in the area of LIMA, LOPE or TOPE

  144. Mike Says:

    DARE definitely has gone …. I said it ;)

  145. briandowlingisshifty Says:

    bugger. it’ll be something totally bizarre. I know they keep stressing that there has only ever been 1 answer but I don’t buy it.

  146. Mike Says:

    There has only ever been one answer … but its 5 letters long ;)

  147. WENDY Says:

    thought they wanted to finish it today!

  148. Mike Says:

    yup, used all the web entries up cos they said they were playing that one through til won

  149. WENDY Says:

    they did didnt they!

  150. Mike Says:

    If I’d have known they were going on to others, I’d have saved some up :)

  151. WENDY Says:

    yes – but they are only going to take one call arn’t they?

  152. WENDY Says:

    look on the bright side – just think how much 150 entries would have cost if you had rang them in – £112.50 I think

  153. WENDY Says:

    ah well – maybe tommorrow

  154. briandowlingisshifty Says:

    Yes, they are liars and swindlers.
    So was there only one winner tonight then? £2k for the very excited Maggie right at the end?

  155. WENDY Says:

    seems that way – wonder how she entered?

  156. WENDY Says:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dmn/Mintpuzzle

    Oh dont know if you have spotted this – its a list of wrong answers to the 14X puzzle

  157. WENDY Says:

    we could do with one for each of the puzzles they keep repeating

  158. briandowlingisshifty Says:

    I’m being a tad judgemental here, but she didn’t sound like the sharpest knife in the drawer so I’d guess she was a fee-paying caller.

  159. WENDY Says:

    and the Mint number – just in case!

  160. WENDY Says:

    probubly – to be honest I switched it off before she came on – I knew the answer and had no free calls left…..

  161. Mike Says:

    That page of answers is only up to the 9th of Sept

  162. briandowlingisshifty Says:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Dmn/Mintpuzzle
    doesn’t look to have been updated since the 9th but is a handy reference nevertheless.

  163. WENDY Says:

    ah – it has not been updated then?

  164. WENDY Says:

    need the equilavant of a trainspotter for this

  165. WENDY Says:

    and a pool of possible remaining enswers

  166. Mike Says:

    could do with getting a page together and fleecing the hell out of them ;)

  167. briandowlingisshifty Says:

    Like trains Mike? :-)

  168. WENDY Says:

    my point exactly

  169. Mike Says:

    Ouch, I am truly and deeply wounded to the very core of my anorak and flask ;)

  170. briandowlingisshifty Says:

    hee hee ;-)

  171. WENDY Says:

    ok you guys – here is the remainder of my list – I have to admit I missed ‘P’ as a possible third letter so its not complete
    DARE DOVE PATE POSE KALE LASS LESS LOSS TIRE TUBE DIME DIVE PITA RARE RIFE RILE REVS TAME TORE TUBA RIPE VICE – COPY AND USE – AND LET ME KNOW IF ANY HAVE BEEN SAID PLEASE!

  172. briandowlingisshifty Says:

    Pay attention Wendy. Mike said DARE himself. :-) I’m pretty sure Dove has been said also. I’m thinking the 3rd letter may be W or Z as Wend and Zend are both words and not too common.

  173. Mike Says:

    ok, take these ones off your list :)

    DARE DOVE PATE POSE DIME DIVE RARE RILE TAME RIPE

  174. WENDY Says:

    MY GOD – i HAVE JUST TURNED ROUND TO SEE MY OTHER HALF WATCHING A PROGRAMME ON POTTY-TRAINING!!!!! I think he is probubly the candidate for the trainspotter role dont you think?

  175. Mike Says:

    lmao … involuntary mint watcher ;)

  176. briandowlingisshifty Says:

    But who knows. As I said earlier, this puzzle has just got so many possible answers, it will be someone like you or Mike that has had a reasonable stab at keeping a list of used answers that’ll win it. It’s not going to be won by the bloke who gets in from the pub pissed up.

  177. WENDY Says:

    what was the third clue again? to get the Z I mean

  178. WENDY Says:

    my pont exactly – which is why I think if we keep up to date on it on here we can crack it

  179. Mike Says:

    just trying to figure a way of swapping contact details without posting them here … any ideas other than my last resort of signing up for another forum and using the PM system in there?

  180. WENDY Says:

    and it aint gonna cost a penny

  181. WENDY Says:

    what the hell

    wendymiller4@hotmail.com

    I’m on messenger – add me

  182. WENDY Says:

    let me know who you are and I will give the address we usually use !

  183. briandowlingisshifty Says:

    Are you grooming me? I’m only 11. I’m calling the cops…

  184. Mike Says:

    I wasn’t aware that I possessed that kind of brush :)

  185. briandowlingisshifty Says:

    Sorry. Not a joking matter. Rest assured, I am an adult, although my name isn’t actually briandowlingisshifty.

    This is my last night working tonight so I won’t be watching The Mint until I’m back on the graveyard shift. I’ll be happy to weigh in with any help I can then. Good luck, will check back on here in the future. I expect to see a Wendy/Mike collaboration that is fleecing those Mint swines.

  186. WENDY Says:

    ok cokey – tell them Wendy was here

  187. WENDY Says:

    we shall work on it – rest assured

  188. briandowlingisshifty Says:

    Guys, this site might be worth checking out :
    http://www.gotools.co.uk
    Found it on digitalspy forum. It reportedly has previously used answers on The Mint. And it encourages web entry.

  189. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    briandowlingisshifty

    Thank you that was the objective getting the moral high ground and personally I don’t care who has won what or how much as I can earn 5 grand in one month. Better to earn you money than have it gifted as you have not only achieved something it don’t make you lazy!

    Steve

    PS. Mike your math is wrong……Web entry is not free as your already paying for you internet service…its called an overhead!

  190. Mike Says:

    “PS. Mike your math is wrong……Web entry is not free as your already paying for you internet service…its called an overhead!”

    Ah I see, we’re getting petty and trite now are we? … As my internet connection is broadband, it is always on, therefore would incur the same charges regardless of whether it is used or not. As you say, I am ALREADY (capitalised for emphasis) paying for my internet service.

    On the other hand, calls/letters to OFFCOM are not part of the normal everyday charges we all incur (and therefore by your logic, your own phone line rental would become an overhead of those calls if made that way of course).

    Think about your statements before you post Steve, and actually read how they look in advance, otherwise you’ll end up looking like a hypocrite. (And don’t start twisting that to say that I have called you a hypocrite, because that would again not quite be the truth)

    And as for your earnings, believe it or not, some of us DON’T earn that sort of wage, and I agree with your statement about it being better to earn … but for those of us not as evidently gifted and lucky as yourself, these insignificant (to you evidently) amounts are a supplement to what we do get. Then again, that is as irrelevant in this post as it was in yours, but I felt it needed to be answered.

  191. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    For the record the complaint i submitted to OFCOM was online at work and cost me nothing. I have a full written response to that complaint at home where some of us talk about doing something some of us actually do.

    As for getting “petty and trite” I am pointing out the obvious to you that there is no such thing as a free lunch as for some where at some point there is payment like you broadband cost per month your computer the electricity the TV cost and running costs your line rental on the BT line they are all factors and to call it petty and trite show that you have a true lack of understanding about finance.

    As for being “gifted and lucky” there is no such thing I got where I am through hard work and many more people could also if they just applied themselves instead of chasing rainbows.

    Steve

  192. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    At the end of the day we are all entitled to our own opinions about anything and its clear we don’t agreed on a number of things. I don’t care which way you paint it any show that makes money of premium rate lines on TV is a waste of time. The BBC get our license money and the private channels make a killing in advertising and sponsorship so in having these kind of programs on just feed the fat cat more for their pockets and if some people are happy to do that so be it but I still insist for the small amount of winners the majority are losers no matter which way you paint it. It’s all RIP off TV.

    Steve

  193. Mike Says:

    A lack of understanding on these matters is not the issue, I have a rather good understanding of financial matters … as I said in my previous post, my broadband has to be paid whether I play or not, therefore isn’t a factor in this discussion. Same with Electric and Cable package, they would be in use in exactly the same ways whether or not I played. This, I believe shows your singularly arrogant refusal to understand the most simple of points put forward from any view which conflicts with your own, and also points to the way that you automatically fill in any gaps that you percieve to be there with arbitrary information which you then attempt to pass off as unarguable truth from your soapbox … sorry steve, you need to take off the black and whites ‘cos the world works in shades of grey.

  194. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    Its only grey for those that cant be arsed to look deeper into thing and would rather live in a semi dream world.

    Steve

  195. Mike Says:

    I can see that this discussion can’t go any further until you accept that there is a world beyond the end of your nose steve. I have plainly stated my case, and unfortunately your one track mind is refusing to accept even the smallest aspect of the opposite side of the fence.

    As for grey being a dream world, most people see grey areas in most things, black and white is a sort of comfort thing for people who can’t accept that there is a whole world of diversity out there ….. look at the real world for a change steve, not just the truncated version of it you percieve.

  196. Wendy Says:

    How can I have been ripped off if the TV was already on as well as the computer? I am already on broadband and my pc is on 24/7 so no revenue can be got from either by the television company. As to being able to earn £5000 a month – I probubly could if I left this area plus family and went to work elsewhere. However I quite like it here even if it is in the wilds and I particularly enjoy being near my family. So I would rather take my chances on a boost from a free game show thank you very much.

  197. Wendy Says:

    Anyway Mike – do you think a guy with such a poor grasp of English could really earn 5k a month other than in the construction industry?

  198. The Glasgow Student Says:

    I honestly feel sorry for Brian Dowling. he has the hardest job on tv. if i was him i think i would have quietly gone in a corner and topped myself.

    i think he is HATING this bloody…

    nineteen minus five =
    4 + 3 x 2 =
    6 – 5 =

    … quiz even more than we are. THE STRESS… no one is going to win this as its being played continously for a month.

    Has anyone ever heard of the competition commition,

    Also,,, WHO is that z list celebrity, my life isnt worth this

  199. WENDY Says:

    I wish they would say some of the numbers that have been said – for the record the lowest number that hasnt been said is 112

  200. WENDY Says:

    jeez – an 84 year old – how much has she spent? I bet she has no idea

  201. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    Mike

    Pompous to the last and still failing to grasp what I have been trying to tell you it seems you are blinded only by your own ignorance

    Steve

  202. briandowlingisshifty Says:

    The Glasgow Student – don’t be lulled into feeling sorry for Dowling. He is well aware that he is fronting a show whose aim is to con people out of money and it’s his job to encourage us, the general public, to part with our cash on the premise that whatever answer we are thinking must be right. I can’t believe each night the presenters have got the fucking cheek to say they want to give more money away – if this was true they wouldn’t use that fucking numbers game.
    I see Mike and Steve H are still at loggerheads. I agree with points from both of you. Steve is right that this type of TV is in the main a scam, and Mike is right in saying that he can play it for free and win some money. Time to agree to disagree chaps.

  203. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    Brian,

    Tried to agree to disagree on the September 20th.

    >Steven Holdsworth Says:

    >September 20th, 2006 at 16:13
    >At the end of the day we are all entitled to our own opinions >about anything and its clear we don’t agreed on a number of >things. I don’t care which way you paint it any show that >makes money of premium rate lines on TV is a waste of >time. The BBC get our license money and the private >channels make a killing in advertising and sponsorship so in >having these kind of programs on just feed the fat cat more >for their pockets and if some people are happy to do that so >be it but I still insist for the small amount of winners the >majority are losers no matter which way you paint it. It’s all >RIP off TV.

    Steve

  204. Bubba Says:

    Is it just me, or did Dustin the turkey on “The Den” have a Mint-like game this morning, charging kids to call and guess answers to a puzzle?

  205. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    ________________________________________________
    Quiz Telly could become Shopping Telly
    Published: September 21, 2006
    Print Email

    Quiz channels such as ITV Play and Quiz Call could be reclassified as shopping telly services and be regulated by the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) as a result of a new Ofcom probe into participation TV.

    The watchdog is preparing to launch a consultation early next year that will consider which participation TV services count as legitimate editorial and which should be classified as advertising.

    Quiz channels are considered as editorial by Ofcom but the consultation will open the door to the possibility they should receive a shopping telly licence and be regulated by the ASA.

    An Ofcom spokeswoman added the consultation would aim to provide “guidance on the use of premium rate services in television programming to ensure participation TV complies with the Broadcasting Code”.

    The proposed Ofcom probe will come on the back of the existing Gambling Commission consultation that is expected to result in more stringent regulation of quiz channels. The consultation ends next month and its findings are expected in the New Year.

    There is a growing feeling the commission is looking at reclassifying quiz channels as lotteries, which could result in the channels having to publish their odds on-screen from September 2007
    _______________________________________________

    Now that would be good news!
    Steve

  206. Mike Says:

    Interesting how you only quote half of a story, the previous post to the one you quoted required an answer in my opinion. And as to having the audacity to call anyone else ignorant and ‘failing to grasp’ points, you may wish to review that when you have developed the personal quality which could enable you to do so (i.e. the ability to look at something from both sides)

    I can honestly say that I agree with some of the points that have been brought up against, but I still fall on my side of the fence because other people, like you, have the right to watch whatever they please … and if they want to watch what is in your opinion trash, what right do you have to undermine and take away their right to do so? Absolutely none at all.

  207. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    I never said I had the right to take it away from anyone or tell anyone what to watch I was stating my opinion and mine alone which is my right to do so. As for seeing something from both sides i already do. My opinions are always calculated with all factors considered.

    I fully accept that The Mint give you Free Web entry but what you failed to understand that there is always a cost associated with running a computer and that cost by definition make everymoment you use a computer cost something so my point was that although its FREE from the Mint to enter on the web its is still costing something.

    Steve

  208. Mike Says:

    ok, let me put this in as simple terms as possible, seeing as you have failed to grasp the point yet again:

    example cost for broadband internet per month:
    With Mint – £20.00
    Without Mint – £20.00
    Therefore internet access costs do not apply unless using a cost per minute internet service provider

    example cost of running a computer per night:
    With Mint – £0.40
    Without Mint – £0.40
    Therefore as long as the computer is in use no longer than it would be normally, running costs do not apply (this includes electric and lighting)

    example line rental per month:
    With Mint – £20.00
    Without Mint – £20.00
    Therefore line rental charges do not factor in either.

    All of the overheads you have stated would be no lower without that particular show, and would not go up should a new viewer decide to take that route also. So the relevance of these overheads to the argument in question is nil.

    The only tangible overhead that is specifically relevant to this is the time taken in actually watching and entering the show which could be spent doing other things.

  209. Wendy Says:

    Ok you guys – listen

    regarding the numbers game – using the clue given and taking all numbers that have already been said into account – I make it that there are only 260 possible answers left.

    So if anyone wants to try it – using the webentry obviously – here are the lowest 10 numbers

    125
    132
    136
    143
    144
    148
    149
    153
    159
    168

    There is no point at all in ringing in with a lower number than these as they have all been said before!

    I know other people are using the clues as well, as numbers keep being said off my list, so if we can eliminate a few more then hopefully one of us (preferably me :-) ) will scoop it.
    Best of luck guys

  210. Frankie Says:

    nice one Wendy

    But why do you not think it could be one of the really long ones like

    19-5-14-4-3-2-10-6-5-1 – like john iguess suggests or a roman numerals one?

    as well the numbers already said, is there a list of clues that have been said by the presenters?

    Happy hunting – I hope you do get it!

  211. WENDY Says:

    someone got within 2 numbers of the answer

    cuts it down a bit dont you think

  212. Sam S Says:

    I am certain that they have basically had two competitions running with light bite give aways at the begining of the show and end. Also no adverts. ITV is hemouraging money and itvPlay is the best reilable income.

    Last night they had the infamous nineteen etc etc

    Last night I heard wacky outthere answered such -1, 0, 1, 2 and of course twenty nine about a zillion times.

    Then they gave away 4000 over two games before ending the show.

    I am certain I have seen this comp for 4 months now! Where is this investigation then. Its theft from the guilible and drunk.

    I reckon its the phone number and the call charge you need to add in some cokymame scheme, and due to the lack of sensiblity in callers they get impulsed and back on. Know one ever gets a go on the mint, they could let every caller a go at the min regardless of correct answer or not.

    Now tonight they have a four letter word game another one that they have had for 4 months.

    and let me tell you its not LOVE

    close it down it unfair and immoral its preying on on suspecable people

    I mean the presenters say the same drizzle over and over like jingles on a auto replay jingle cd stuck on a treadmill.

    they retain a ceasless vigor and enertic entusiam.

    The presenter is now asking a caller to record his mobile answer phone message actually twice because she got it wrong. And she did!?!?!?!?!?

    The total amount of money they expected to make during the puzzle is the answer in the envelop. Though the actual amount will far exceed this.

    Its the mint who get minted totally cake-oh-mundo

    the letter puzzle ends in a the last line being Saga because it has been a saga. Its under investigation and its not been suspended yet. If a curroupt police officer was under investigation then suspension of role would take imediate effect.

    Walmart microsoft and other comglorerate of investotors will but flagging itv….

    Think out of the Box, the phone numbers are outta the box!!!

  213. WENDY Says:

    can I take it you are one of the stupid ones who ran up a huge bill whilst your pc was sitting idle?

  214. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    Mike

    Its not me failing to grasp the point Mike its you but your equations are getting better.You have answered the question correctly as to what i have been tryign to say by the fact that your equations state with the mint=£0.40 you have grasped the concept that it does actually have a running cost even when sat doing nothing a computer has a running cost its that simple. This is the difference between profit and loss and it is how any buisness work out its running cost before it knows its NET profit, gross profit is without subtracting its running costs.

    Steve

  215. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    Sam S Says:

    >close it down it unfair and immoral its preying on >suspecable people

    Sam totally agree.

    Steve

  216. Mike Says:

    Steve, it seems that you are trying to twist things to your own advantage again. Yes it is you failing to grasp the point, and yes I know how a business works. What was actually said (and maybe I didn’t simplify enough for you) was that WITH the mint the running costs were no higher or lower than WITHOUT, therefore irrelevant to the issue at hand. My computer is on REGARDLESS of whether I’m using it for entry or not so the running cost is already there, therefore irrelevant. My internet connection is always on REGARDLESS of whether its connected to MSN, Yahoo, The Mint or even when I’m not viewing a web page, therefore the running cost is already there and irrelevant. The TV would be on in the background anyway, so the running costs for that and the phone are also irrelevant, as would lighting costs and anything else to do with the household that is no different to my normal routine.

    What do you find so difficult to understand about the point that your entire running cost argument is IRRELEVANT as (to put it in an equation you will hopefully grasp):

    COST OF MINT (WEB ENTRY) = NORMAL EVERYDAY CHARGES WITHOUT MINT

    In effect (and as a ‘black and white’ explanation just in case the above goes over your head … again) the web entry system is free (apart from time taken to use it) as it incurs no charges ABOVE AND BEYOND the charges that would normally be paid anyway. so there is no ‘running cost’ for the mint, what there is a ‘running cost’ for is a household … so take off your blinkers and look at it again.

    The equation is not ‘getting better’ as you put it, the equation is as it has always been, a fact, though using example figures rather than my true monthly expenditure.

  217. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    And when are you going to get it through your thick head im not on about the mint. My inital comment was that its not free simply because it cost money to run a computer even without broadband it still cost money to run a computer its this simple fact you fail to grasp. Its not me that is blinkered it is you as I can see the whole picture whereas you seem to only select the parts that suit you.

    Facts…..running a computer costs money..End of arguement

    I have neither the time nor the inclination to debate this point with you anymore as its clear im banging my head against a thick wall.

    Steve

  218. Mike Says:

    “Steven Holdsworth Says:
    September 20th, 2006 at 10:58

    PS. Mike your math is wrong……Web entry is not free as your already paying for you internet service…its called an overhead!”

    “Steven Holdsworth Says:
    September 22nd, 2006 at 11:35

    And when are you going to get it through your thick head im not on about the mint.”

    Last time I looked web entry was an integral part of the mint systems, I’m spending nothing specifically on it, which WAS the original point.

    Now stop backtracking, squirming around and changing your story every 5 minutes … and this is more than likely the reason you have lost your inclination to debate, because you’re beginning to make yourself look like a fool, despite your claims of that being the case with anyone who does not share your opinion.

  219. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    Still reading it the worng way , if you fail to see what is black and white infront of your face well that is your problem.

    Story has not changed running a computer cost money “Overhead” thats simple but your too ignorante to see that point.

    Think I will drive to the shop tonight to get a lotto ticket but because I have already paid my insurance and tax and have petrol in the car the journey must be free by your calculations.

    Im stopping arguing as you are now talking in circles and even contradicting yourself so to try and educate you further is a waste of my time.

    Steve

  220. Mike Says:

    As insurance and tax are to be paid regardless of whether you drive to the shop, then from that point of view they are no part of that journey … petrol however, may be in your car, but is not USED until you make the journey, therefore IS an overhead of that specific journey, as is wear and tear and the price of the lottery ticket.

    I am sorry to say this Steve, but your blacks and whites change place as often as the sun rises, so until you have a concept of what you are actually talking about in a single direction, and until your percieved ‘whole picture’ stops being a small part of the real ‘whole picture’, then please feel free to back out in your own arrogant, ignorant and self righteous manner.

    I also notice that any time you are pulled on backtracking and changing your story in any way at all, you blame this on someone else’s ignorance and stupidity … this sounds very much like the desperation tactic known in business circles as ‘passing the buck’, something that very rarely saves face or ass.

  221. Mike Says:

    “you are now talking in circles and even contradicting yourself”

    ok, heres one for you, seeing as I already gave one for you, give examples for me, and take context into account (which was a consideration when I selected that specific backtrack).

  222. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    It’s not my fault you fail to understand its quite simple. You show your lack of understanding with my example the running of a car does include tax and insurance as a running cost you say you know how business works well in saying that they are not part of the overhead just show you have a total lack of understanding about it.

    This is why its a waste of my time trying to explain it to someone so narrow minded as yourself.

    Steve

  223. Mike Says:

    A car has all running costs associated with it over the full year, but a specific journey only has the running costs associated with that specific journey. I did not say that tax and insurance were not part of the car’s overhead, I said that they were irrelevant to the cost of that specific journey (a car is a bad example to use in the first place as it is ONLY used to make journeys, so the total overhead of the year’s journeys WOULD include these)

    now are you going to answer the above or show that you not only don’t know what the hell you’re talking about, but that you’re willing to blatantly lie to save face?

  224. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    If that is the case then that the tax and insurance are not part of the running cost for that journey then why is it that the inland revenue take these and other factors into account when publishing what a person should be paid per mile for the use of there own car during buisness hours.

    40p per mile for the first 10,000 miles
    25p per mile thereafter

    This price is based on the fact that they consider tax and insurance part of the running cost which it is for any journey.

  225. David Says:

    Reading all the conversation that has been going on I feel I have to agree with Steve on this matter that everything when you break it down cost something to run although his point about the Web entry costing something is right but only if you break down every cost involved in having a PC and internet lighting television TV license sky or cable. As I say its a valid point but only someone that is use to having to count the cost of everthing would normally see it like this.

  226. briandowlingisshifty Says:

    I agree with Mike on this point. What Steve is seemingly failing to grasp is that Mike (when he has played The Mint via the web entry) already had his TV and his PC/Internet on. So it’s costing him ABSOLUTELY NOTHING EXTRA.
    Steve would be better off sticking to the original valid point, which is that a lot of people won’t be playing online and therefore The Mint is making money out of those people. And most people seem to agree that they are doing so in an unfair manner. They’re tempting people to pay 75p to guess a word out of the dictionary in most cases. And for the bigger prizes the odds are well against you as they usually use the most uncommon words they can find (upbrixle etc.)

  227. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    Brian,

    Im not failing to grasp anything I understand that it is costing nothing extra my point is that it does cost something to have a Computer running regardless of playing the mint. The point im making yet again that it does cost money to run a Computer.

    Steve

  228. Wendy Says:

    Face it Mike – you’re bashing your head on a brick wall with this one – he can’t grasp the point at all and its getting boring.

    Although on a technical point I don’t even need to watch the mint anymore – I could just let my PC work out the answers and ring for me while I do something more interesting!

    Therefore, if I did this all TV costs become null and void.

    :-)

  229. Comeonthehoops Says:

    I have read the arguments re free web entry and as I was already paying for broadband and television viewing I consider my wins of £4,000 and £50 (Mint) and £200 and £120 (Rovers Return) to have been totally free. I do agree that anyone who plays using the premium rate call is being suckered in.

  230. Sam S Says:

    No Wendy I have never entered! -I am an insomniac without digital TV

    It is somewhat redeeming that people from free web entry have won prizes. Though I still think it should be taken off.

  231. Mike Says:

    Well said Comeonthehoops, in effect what I have said in my posts, yet said in a far clearer and more concise manner … maybe that is the angle I should have approached from. By the way, congrats on the wins.

    Wendy, I had kinda figured that out, and I am still waiting for SH’s great revelation over my contradictions, because I’ve re-read over my posts and am still at a loss to see where these glaring backtracks took place.

  232. Mike Says:

    Sam, to risk quoting one of my previous posts, The Mint and its like are a successful imported program format which, being as profitable as they are for the broadcasting companies, are unlikely to be relinquished quickly. I agree with you in part, but rather than removal, I believe that better control is needed over the amount of calls that can be made from a single telephone number in, for example, a 30 day period.

    I think this sort of interactive TV is here for the long term, and it is more likely to spread through more channels than it is to disappear into a few select channels.

  233. Sam S Says:

    Its a slippery slope; I would not call this interactive;

    Interactive would be there not on the phone; you call (or get selected from the online entrants and called back) and answer a question

    Its a sad state of affairs. Can’t you feel your brain cells bursting into oblivion as you listen to a has been (or a gay guy or a lady with ample bosoms) presenter chat away with a zelebraty (theres a me-dee-ah gimmic at the moment where by any bigbrother contestant is counted as a supplementary guest) about nothing at all worth knowing. Any anything they say gets repeated since the very quickly run out of words+thoughts (void of grey matter)

    ITV for example will never screen another documentary, just dramas (if you can refer to them as such Frost, Rebus, Prime Suspect etc), quiz shows and reality shows (the contentender, hells kitchen, x-factor etc etc) and sh*te soaps. I have been watching countdown for almost 15 years, its entertaining, educational and enjoyable.

    Any puzzle apart from the four monthers and word games like upbrixle I get right away. An entrey level so low, a beanstalk could enter and win (though it would have to be an eighteen year old with permission to use the phone or access to the lectrical interweb)

  234. Comeonthehoops Says:

    Believe me, chance would be a fine thing to be eighteen again and yes the answers are pot luck, right place, right answer,
    right time.

    Perhaps you should not be so quick to judge other people’s viewing habits as it would indeed be a boring old world if we were all the same.

    Like you, I personally prefer programmes like Countdown but do not try to impose my taste on others. Life’s too short so live and let live is my motto

  235. Family Guy Says:

    That nineteen minus 5 question has I believe been on for the past three months. They also have another crossword puzzle quiz that has been on for a while as well. Complete con and people are still ringing in trying to guess the answers the stupid bastards. As Jax says in his/her e-mail, I never heard of Hot Skull as a word. In the same week I saw a game where the word “water” was displayed and you had to phone in and suggest a word which goes with it, like “watertight” or “waterpistol” and one of the words that was eventual got was “wateringcan”. Now is it just me or is “watering” a different word from “water”? The quiz said to guess a word that goes with “water” and then they go and break that rule by using the word “watering” and joining it with the word “can”. They seem to make up their own rules as they go along. ITV is the worst channel on TV.

  236. Comeonthehoops Says:

    ps

    Thanks Mike for your congratulations and believe me I haven’t spent it wisely !!!!!!

  237. Mike Says:

    Hot skull, by the look of it, is an obsolete term that has been replaced by ‘hot head’ (It also appears as a medical term relating to radioiodine therapy). On the word ladders, they do actually state that it might contain part of a word as well as other words, so watering can would be correct by those rules.

  238. WENDY Says:

    the five most likely answers that havn’t been said (in my opinion) are:

    ROVE
    TIRE
    DAZE
    DOZE
    LASE

    anyone else trying to get rid of it as well?

  239. Paul Says:

    except:

    TIRE assumes the first word is MOTE which is a bit of an obscure word. I think many people mistake this for the spelling MOAT as in water around a castle.

    DAZE and DOZE assumes the third word is ZEND. Which is an ancient iranian language apparently??? – out of scholary use according to dictionary.com.

    This TV progam has turned me into a proper loser.

    Well at least I dont spend money calling. I have got through once on web entry though. PILE. Which I now know had already been said a number of times previously.

    I think this program could be made acceptable if they werent so blatently lying e.g. on the turbo round:

    “We’re taking as many calls as we possibly can”

    Then they procceed to explain the rules again/say the telephone number again/have a quick chat with other presenter etc….

    We all know they could take calls every 10 seconds if they wanted.

    Even if you hate this program – you have to be amused by people spending there cash and calling in with ROSE as the anwer (60 times and counting [Not me counting of course - I know I said I have become a loser but I aint that sad :) ]).

    Paul

  240. WENDY Says:

    im thinking of Soma as well sounds a bit obscure apparently its a ..indian Ritual drink….to be quite honest i want this to be won , so it can move on .it would be nice if it was me though

  241. Cat Porter Get Your Kit Off Says:

    The word ‘Soma’ would also mean ‘pretty’ or ’sweet’ in the Finnish language.

    Surely the ‘Upbrixle’ thing was highly unethical because it’s not a word that appears in the modern English dictionary. I reckon they should only be allowed to use words that are in the most concise Oxford dictionary around. Anything outside of that and they’d be breaking the rules.

    Bust those ITV fuckers, I say!

  242. Dave Thompson Says:

    Hi I have spent over £100 on THE MINT in the last 2 weeks – and never even got through to the studio – if u r looking do not bother! BIG BIG rip off!

  243. Mike Says:

    Sorry Dave, but that one is your own fault, you should use the web entry system.

  244. Gloria Says:

    I wrote to ITV Play to complain about the top answers on the Mint as they’re so outrageous. They wrote back that they subscribe to an online dictionary. It would appear that this dictionary has such obscure words that they are not listed in the well known dictionaries available for purchase to the public

  245. anon Says:

    its that they dont care what there doing to their target audience. that botheres me. all those associated will get there karma. That includes itv

  246. Anon Says:

    I spent 9 hundred pound on the mint do not phone in. Did you c the show where they gave the word head……… three were already done like head girl at 4.30 am the gave the remaining answers and they were head post, head cloth and head sheet can anybody explain these answers cos they dont make sense.

  247. Sam S Says:

    The Mint has gone.

    AFAIK The Mint was not won; and I don’t know the results of either the word game of the numbers game.

    I am not following the broadcast of these shows, I do however feel that these shows need strict restrictions. I am pining for a return to screening a verity of programming not just endless cheap pifle that gets broadcast. Cheap Zero Content Zelebrity
    based programming, that goes in one ear and out the other erupting functioning brain cells into wasteless sludge!

    I have just read this:
    Discussion on the ethics, it also discusses the call holding process

    I believe that they place presidence on callers, rather than internet entries you got almost no chance of ever getting through via internet entry.

    They can easily cover the prize money for each game and then some. They’ve divised long haul games and many ‘big money’ games aswell as quickies. It carefully time managed to let the quickies out at 3.50 am – when the viewing public is completly mushed. I suspect that the high frequency of inebriated callers is explained by channel hoping people returning from a nightout at the pub and then calling and (being fortunate enough put on hold) to get through, after X amount of time on hold (cracking open the celebration booze stock thinking I may even hit the jackpot) and then complete;y soozled getting at 3.40am.

    I have heard that the show is broadcast from budapest. Using the facilities of a europorn studio. They seem to be using some kind of effect that enharnces the gleam and shine of broaches, rings and brians watch!

    I think that the program makers should be held to response here, a huge number of people have been totally duped. Well and truly sold the woolen sunglasses. Refunds should be made. Anyway the The Mint has gone, Quizmania (Greggles & Co) have not returned but a clone of quizcall has taken the mints place.

    Perhaps the Tony Blair should make this an item on his agenda to resolve before he officially leaves office.

  248. Mike Says:

    £900?? Now that is more than a little excessive, and unless you earn enough to support that level of payout without breaking the bank, more than a little foolish too.

    Head Post is a bed component
    Head Cloth is a type of head dress
    Head Sheet is a term for the poster sized promo sheet modelling agencies send out, so called because it consists only of head shots of the agency’s models

  249. Sam S Says:

    I spoke (posted to soon)

    That word game is back again this must be going on nearly 5 months.

    I bet we can see the return of the classic numbers game.

    Everybody thinks that the anwser is love in the word game! The large percentage of callers must be channel suffing and spy a seemlingly easy game and call not realising that the game has literally been going on for some months now.

    That make your play B$ was a carbon clone of the mint wiith all the whizbang magic gone, the puzzles are just as crytic and the presenters even more inane

    ahwell;

  250. WENDY Says:

    Well – that got rid of three of my posssibles in a very short space of time – I think more and more people are using logic now. My favourites are now ROVE and LASE. If not it is probubly a plural answer.

  251. WENDY Says:

    hmmm – not that then :-)

  252. ddog Says:

    haha I just heard you get on with rove, unlucky

  253. ddog Says:

    i think its a plural

  254. WENDY Says:

    here we go again – its not under 112 – everything has been said.
    Anyway here are some possibles (ref previous clues)
    2041
    2045
    2049
    2054
    2059
    2064
    2078
    2084
    2088
    2089
    2093
    2099
    I shall try for one if I get on so lets try to eliminate a few!

  255. Sam S Says:

    Wendy you appear to be listing almost concecutive numbers, have you got any idea whatsoever as to how you’d arrive at these kind of numbers using the numbers on the screen?

    If you’ve eliminated the others by crossing them off a list then it must have taken you some serious devotion to record and administrate this information – enough that IMHO you deserve to win a seventy four thousand plus mint.

    On another note they keep going on about the mint, but no one has had a go (from what I have seen) in over a month may be even two to three months.

    As my friend would say:

    ‘Scam city roll nine’, anybody getting though to the show should be able to have ago at the mint, irrelvent of answer being either correct or incorrect.

    I have defined ‘deceit’ in google interesting
    1) misrepresentation, deception, trickery
    2) lying, cheating; doing something dishonest
    3) This is behavior which is dishonest and/or fraudulent, where the truth is altered to intentionally mislead and deceive another party.

    all the above apply. They keep talking about these damn puzzles asif they get solved nightly and irregular viewers are lulled into calling. If some one never having seen the show knew that the answer was not ‘twenty – nine’ and the puzzle has been going on for months then they would not call

    £90 thousand pounds for this numbers game now – they are raking it in, or in the words of Bulla ‘cakomundo’

    They could provide other puzzles as examples of the ’strange / warped’ logic being used then viewers would have more than a shot in the dark chance of getting it right

    quote from Craig “Its a good answer. I’ll tell you why – beacuse no one has said that answer on tonights show.”

    (Omitting the fact thats its been said on numerous other shows!! MISLEADING!!! Intending to convey that the puzzle is straightforwrd)

    “Thats what we like at the mint original answers”

    (It was not F**KING orginal!!!!)

  256. WENDY Says:

    http://www.goldstag.co.uk/clients/answersINC/welcome.asp?GameID=456

    This gives you all the previous answers – so I am not the trainspotter.

    However about a week or so back they said that someone had got within two nos of the answer – so that can then be checked (assuming they were not lying!)

    he also said (although i dont hold too much credence to this one) that is was over 2039!

    So working on that – these are the next few answers.

    Logic you see – obviously I am not going to list all the rest of the possibles for the simple reason that I can’t be bothered, but the more we eliminate the better chance everyone has got.

    happy hunting

  257. Dave Says:

    Nobody in here would ever give an old answer if they just register and check the answers already gone on this and it seems every game on the mint, and it also seems to get updated with the wrong answers instantly

    personal opinion is it looks like a good site I will check regulary

  258. Rod Says:

    I can’t believe they’re still playing this game and I read posts here dating from July 28th!!! That’s over 2 months ago – and I know I’ve seen this damn numbers quiz at least 3 times before. In fact, every time it comes on I hit the record button on Sky+ in the hope that in the morning I will finally find out what the damned answer was!

    This has to be the biggest CON ever!!!

    ITV need to sort their act out.

  259. WENDY Says:

    WELL DONE KID!!!!

  260. Rod Says:

    2106 WOW!!! How???

  261. Dave Says:

    bloody hell finally gone after so long 2106 for anybody who missed it :)

  262. Dave Says:

    so they bring the other big money making game back :(

  263. WENDY Says:

    About time this one was cracked as well

  264. Dave Says:

    was that you then Wendy ?

  265. joe blogs Says:

    Answer is 2106 – just won

  266. WENDY Says:

    ANOTHER ONE OFF MY LIST!

  267. Andy Says:

    So, who’s gonna tell us how it was done?

  268. Dave Says:

    wish I knew how it was worked out as well

  269. WENDY Says:

    NOT A CLUE

  270. Sam S Says:

    the number has just been won the answer was 2106

    the logic behond this was never explained, now there on to the next game ‘horrah’ the return of the letters game.

    No people its not not ‘love’.

    Go for it wendy I hope that your entering through the internet and that you get the answer whilst the prize money is up. The winner of the numbers game said she had been watching every night and had had that answer for three week.

    I do wonder how much time she spent on the mint watching, admin, calling or entering the cop via internet. The think of the numerous others all feeling certain that they have the answer. Imagin not getting through with the internet and others getting close to you answer – the impulse to call. Then One person wins the other numersou ones hitting redial have just seen their efforts squandered.

    its not ‘rose’ either

  271. WENDY Says:

    Of course I am using free web entry – I’m not a mug you know

  272. WENDY Says:

    and just for the record – have got on air once tonight and twice last night

  273. Dave Says:

    I only use free web entry, have won about £800 doing it that way, and to make sure I do not get tempted, I have had premium rate numbers barred of my home number :)

  274. Duane Says:

    How the fuck did they get 2106
    please fucking tell me

  275. Duane Says:

    For piss flaps sake sombody must know

  276. Duane Says:

    I think the winner was an ITV worker

  277. Duane Says:

    AS for the game that is on now

    mo*e
    P*t
    *end
    sag*
    If I have to watch this game again I will sandpaper my nipples

  278. Chris Says:

    Hi there the web entry does work i have just tried it for the first time and i got through straight away. They give you a free 0800 number to ring and a pin number which is good
    I gave the answer Tops for the quiz thats on now

  279. Dave Says:

    wish I could get through, on the free entry on The Mint, only normally manage it on the low value prize answers, took me 13 wins to get my £800 doing it on the web :)

  280. Duane Says:

    Yes I have to say that I have got through on web entry but never to the studio

  281. WENDY Says:

    now is the time to try guys – its getting late – better chance of getting through

  282. Duane Says:

    I am trying
    I am trying

  283. Steve Says:

    Dam ran out of free web entries now. I’m sure i have the right answer too. I hope no one guesses it and i can try again tomorrow. Doubt i will get through though as I haven’t yet, seems impossible to get through to the mint. I’ve got through to Quizmania loads and won 2000 pounds in two months, But i refuse to call the premium rate number ever!!!!!!

  284. Duane Says:

    Nice one Steve
    £2000 in two months

  285. Dave Says:

    I am still trying also, plenty of pins but not getting on :(

  286. WENDY Says:

    there have been a lot of new answers tonight – I think more people are playing it properly (using the web to help)

  287. darrell Says:

    Can anyone tell me what the answer was it was won tonight and i missed it.

  288. darrell Says:

    ok just heard it 2160 after all this time

  289. darrell Says:

    now the word puzzle think its late

  290. WENDY Says:

    sorry but late has been said 12 times

  291. darrell Says:

    Anyone tell me how it was worked out please!!!

  292. WENDY Says:

    wish I knew

  293. Dave Says:

    wish I knew darrell :(

  294. Steve Says:

    I was fairly close with my guess, I thought the answer was 2099, never managed to get on air to give it though,
    As for the word i think it is LASE. Don’t steal my answer unless you share the money with me. lol : )

  295. WENDY Says:

    hasnt been said – so best of luck with it

  296. Dave Says:

    not the one I am going for if I ever get on :)

  297. Dave Says:

    so doubt it is going to go again tonight :(

  298. stan Says:

    Okay guys, great to see that someone has finally won the numbers puzzle! I still can’t believe the response this page has had, between you guys you’ve won quite a lot of money :)

    Anyway, tomorrow (today) I’ll make some kind of separate The Mint section for people to talk in, which should hopefully make things a bit easier and tidier :)

  299. Duane Says:

    I think the word is piss or tits
    What do you think

  300. WENDY Says:

    are they still on the same game anyone?

  301. Duane Says:

    yes same game

  302. WENDY Says:

    NO – DIFFERENT NOW

  303. WENDY Says:

    I only have terrestrial tv so I am playing blind now

  304. Dave Says:

    all finished now wendy, so time for bed :)

  305. Googler Says:

    The answer to the Nineteen Minus Five puzzle was 2106

  306. JC Says:

    I have a couple of incoming phone lines and regularly send in 300 entries a night, in the past week I got through to the studio only once – out of a total of more than a 1500 entries. Out of each set of 150 entries during the busy period, I am lucky to get a number about 5 times. Getting a number on the web entry is equivilent to getting past the first stage on the premium rate call. Its a very poor ratio wether you are calling in or doing a free entry. Unless it has gone whilst I slept, I think the answer to:

    mo*e
    P*t
    *end
    sag*

    could be something like MOME which is a word ‘in the upbrixle’ sense.

    I regularly get my letter from ofcom after complaining about this stuff, yes I play, and play for free but they still leave me with a lot to complain about. I’m fed up of listening to a chuffed granny get through to the studio only to be knocked back because the munt is too ambiguous.

    quizmania was a regular source of complaint. Top quiz show host? bigger than monkhouse, bigger than forsyth, the presenter said she was thinking of ‘ginger hair’ and then winked at the camera. Of course granny phones up, eventually gets through and says anne robinson. Argghh. You know what the final answer was… John bloddy leslie. Granny was led up the garden path and ofcom and icstis just sit on their fat greasy hands.

    If in the US, internet gambling, a 12 billion pound business can be outlawed at the stroke of a pen, then surely the regulators can fix what is wrong with this bloody show. The mint are having their cake and eating it, ambiguous answers wouldn’t be so bad if more people got through to have a go and the process was explained afterwards.

    granny, poor people from glasgow and the drunk are being preyed upon. Or is it just a poor drunk scottish granny !

  307. David B. Says:

    Another forum (D*gt*l Sp*) has the alleged method for getting the 2106 answer to the last number game, but a contributor there has pointed out that although this includes the backwards word “TEN” (in the middle of niNETeen) it excludes the foward NINE in NINEteen and the FOUR in the answer FOURteen. In addition, I would argue that it omits the “MINUS FIVE” and “-5″ which cancel out the “FIVE” and 5. Setting number puzzles may be a trickier business than ITV realise…

  308. JC Says:

    how enbarrasing, this whole `our tune thing`

  309. Dave Says:

    what a crap way of wasting time :(

  310. melodigail Says:

    lucky person who won with 2106!!!!!!!!!
    Please please please tell us the logic behind it!!!!!!!!!!!Show us the workings.
    Yours
    Baffled!!!!!!

  311. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    Nineteen Minus Five…..

    nineteen 19
    five 5
    fourteen 14
    nine 9
    four 4
    I 1
    I 1
    I 1
    M 1000
    IV 4
    V 5
    MI 1001

    Total from first line is 2064

    The second line gives :- “4 + 3X2 = 10″

    4 4
    3 3
    X 10
    2 2
    10 10
    1 1
    0 0

    Total from second line is 30

    The third line gives :- “6-5=1″

    6 6
    5 5
    1 1

    Total from third line is 12

    Overall total is 2064 + 30 + 12 = 2106

  312. WENDY Says:

    Impressive

  313. Sam S Says:

    I would have enjoyed seeing the presenters try to talk there way through that Carol Vorderman style!!

    though i do think its still very odd using the nine twice as nine 9 and nine of 19.

    hoodwinked

  314. Dave Says:

    well it still confusses me :(

  315. Dave Says:

    what is all this crappy music and dancing for another time wasting tactic ?

  316. WENDY Says:

    they have hardly taken any calls for ages! It gets boring when they do this

  317. WENDY Says:

    if they start taking calls =- I will start playing

  318. Dave Says:

    I have just finished my free entries wish I had got through was going to say cybil :( , though I got plenty of pins I did not get on

  319. WENDY Says:

    for some reason – I have been severly lacking in pins tonight

  320. WENDY Says:

    oh – got one at last – no joy though

    ARGH NO – NOT ROSE AGAIN!

  321. WENDY Says:

    I have got a lot of entries left – I got bored as I wasnt getting anywhere

  322. Dave Says:

    well rose now only been said 77 times lol

  323. WENDY Says:

    WHAT A TWAT! – iVE BEEN PRESSING REDIAL LIKE A NUTCASE!!!!!!

  324. WENDY Says:

    they must love people like that

  325. Dave Says:

    well I forgot to add the last one on lol sorry

  326. Dave Says:

    good luck wendy if you manage to get on :-)

  327. WENDY Says:

    I have had a grand total of three pins tonight – it gets soooo boring when that happens – Oh and I had chosen Connie for the record – bahhh!!

    Oh 4 pins!

  328. WENDY Says:

    AAARRRGGGHHH!!!!!!

  329. Dave Says:

    another bloody ROSE :(

  330. Dave Says:

    at least kilo only been said 6 times :)

  331. WENDY Says:

    this is true

  332. Dave Says:

    you still not managed to get on wendy ?

  333. WENDY Says:

    naah – boring

    how many call did they take in the last hour?

  334. jc Says:

    was that you wendy?

  335. jc Says:

    … red dwarf?

  336. JP Says:

    I have to stay up half the night working and I often tune into that shitcast. Just for a laugh I wrote a tool that will attempt to enter via web entry 5,000 times an hour. It easily beats their pathetic insert the word security and guess how many times I was selected? Fucking zero, and its not because they are excluding automatic entries either. I pity the glaswegian housewives and poor students who give it a punt out of desperation but I abhor the people who actually send them gifts and letters. Its a con for gods sake, it makes me sad to think theres people who fall for something so blatent. To add insult to injury the presenters cant resist making the odd snide comment about the callers, and yet they still call.

    Now IS the best time to call, because it makes no difference. I swear they use the same puzzle every night too. What wankers.

  337. WENDY Says:

    sorry – wasnt me – bugger – I was the one who got in later but with no joy

  338. WENDY Says:

    I use the normal Web Entry, though I am rather more Selective now, As to when I call in .

    THis Week ive only used my Full Quota on one Occasion , However i have had numerous Pin Numbers, and as a result i have got through to the Studio 4 Times

  339. David Says:

    The telephone systems on these shows could easily log the incoming phone number and draw up statistics of the calls. How do we know that it’s truly Random. What if it ignores people completely who don’t try more than say ten times or twenty times etc. Has anyone ever got through on a first attempt. I agree with all the other Negative comments.

  340. Dave Says:

    well I used my free entries last night late, and managed to get £50 of that new make your play prog, not a fortune, but a nice little win to add to the others I have been lucky enough to get :)

    I am upto £870 now all on free entries via the web, though has taken me 14 wins to get to that amount, still hoping to win one of the big prizes one night

  341. David Says:

    At present on one of the shows, they have name a film beginning with ‘S’ and one of the answers is ‘Sound of Music’ but correct me if I’m wrong but the film is actually titled ‘The Sound of Music’…so it begins with ‘T’.

  342. jc Says:

    Yep, you’re right, IMDB the movies database has listed the film as ‘The Sound Of Music’

  343. james Says:

    did anyone see this pile of pish called the mint last night words that come before or after “school” only 4 out of the 15 answers were revealed but after they showed the ones noone got geeee i mean whos heard of “school schoolie”?? or howabout “school roof”??? i mean wtf is this all about CON FROM START TO FINISH.

  344. Dave Says:

    another crappy add the numbers tonight, so time for bed early, have fun playing if you do :)

  345. WENDY Says:

    heres a few to try for those of you who habnt been watching

    dams
    debe
    debs
    deme
    deva
    dibs
    dips
    dopa
    dubs
    duly

  346. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    Icstis the Premium-rate phone services regulator is to follow Ofcom and the Gambling Commission by launching a review of Quiz Telly. Icstis said the review would look into how transparent the costs of call quiz shows are and how their services work. The regulator said the findings would be shared with broadcasters at a specially held summit planned for the review’s conclusion, but said it had not set a timeframe for the review.

  347. james Says:

    Surely this is nothing but pure and unadulterated fraud whats goin on with these programmes..surely for this to be real what they should do is make all answers on games non computerised ie make sure theyre on boards that cannot be tampered with cos im 100% convnced that the right answers are said often but nope they just say NOPE wrong answers..it is actually a massive con that should be stopped immediately.

  348. Duane Says:

    Who the fuck has heard of a
    SUN-DOG


  349. I thought that what you wrote about these quiz channels was great. I couldnt have said it better myself and agree with everything you said. These channels are cropping up all over the place. The BBC tv is not perfect nobody here said it was but at least they make and give us top quality wildlife programmes like The Blue Planet and the amazing Planet Earth. The BBC has always been great at these type of programmes with David Attenborough making programmes such as Life On Earth. Itv couldnt compete with that.

    I have to admit that I have tried to enter one or two of these tv quizes but only by free online entry. I tried The Mint last week and submited my details about 25 times at least and didnt even get on hold so imagine how much that would be on somebodys phone bill.

    Another point I want to make is this. The programme makers say that they are cutting down on peoples phone costs and gambling habits by restricting the amount of calls they can make to say 150 a day. But since these show are on various channels someone could obviously make 150 calls to Itv Play or The Mint. Then 150 calls to the quiz on Ftn then 100 another channel. So that wont do a good job of restricting the amount of money these people spend on the quizes each day if they are addicted to them. On the quizes where you have to find a missing word some of the answers are so obscure you wonder if these words exists or have made the words up.

    One quiz was night something. One answer revealed at the end of the show was “yesternight” I looked this up on google and the word is listed in the “American Heritage Dictionary” obscure or what. Another quiz classic gangster films. None of these answers. The God Father, Goodfellas, Scarface, Once Upon A Time In America, Reservoir Dogs, The Ususual Suspects or Pulp Fiction where in the list. I mean come on you cant get more classic a gangster movie than The Godfather. Obvious answer I know but nonetheless true.

  350. Mike Says:

    Duane, everyone’s heard of Sun Dogs (NOT!!!) …… after Googling it, it turns out that it is legitimate. The best description I found is quoted here from the website:
    http://www.astrophys-assist.com/wilobs/weathwin/sundog.htm —– “Sun dogs, also called mock suns, are colored, luminous spots caused by the refraction of light by six-sided ice crystals in the atmosphere. These bright spots form in the solar halo at points that are 22 degrees on either side of the sun and at the same elevation as the sun.”

  351. WENDY Says:

    hmm – SUNDOGS

    Actually my partner said it immediately it came up and we had it marked as our answer if we got through.

    The remote got thrown across the room when someone else said it! :-)

  352. james Says:

    you also have to laugh at there so called max calls ..u can make 150 calls a day before you get cut off what a joke so 150 x75p which is £112.50 x 7 days £787.50 now you tell me how just short of £800 per week could possibly constitute HELPING someone who is addicted and believe me people WILL be making such amount of calls.and a previous post pointed out that they could be making calls on multiple stations so there HELPING goes out the window..these presenters are desperate for you to call and there drivel about watch your phone bill is just so fake theyre desperate for you.as for obscure answers i mean really there was a game on quiz call for people to name songs with LOVE in the title..the £10000 top answer was rollover dj i mean lets be honest has anyone heard this and if you have LOVE in the title..that just ges to prove that the answers might seem accessible but in reality you have a minute % chance of getting one right…they also go on about NOW is the time to call were taking a lot of cals i one night sat and must have eneterd over 200 times on the free web entry got 1 pin code and within 2 secs was told i was not put through..this is a scam and WE MUST complain to put an end to it.

  353. WENDY Says:

    anyone know what the first two numbers of the mint were?

  354. WENDY Says:

    I think they were 72 but I am not sure

  355. WENDY Says:

    question answered

  356. james Says:

    add the numbers on the mint tonight

    the number of:

    wheels on eight taxis now 8×4 = 32 ok?

    even numbers up to 10 2+4+6+8 = 20 it says UP to 10

    numbers on one dice 1+2+3+4+5+6=21 ok?

    automatic answer would be 73 but alas 3 hours and its still on…

  357. Gavinski Says:

    Wheels on eight taxis = 34?? Don’t think so.

    A taxi, should have 4 wheels, and a spare wheel by law. They also have a steering “wheel”.

  358. Gavinski Says:

    And yea I meant to type 32 not 34, lol.

  359. neothe Says:

    wheels on eight taxis: 8×6 = 48

    even numbers up to 10: 2+4+6+8 = 20

    numbers on one dice: 1+2+3+4+5+6=21 x 2 (dice is plural; singular is die) = 42

    answer should be 48 + 20 + 42 = 110… but that would be too easy

    using roman numerals, it is probably something like:

    48+4+8+8+50+1+11+10+1 = 141

    20+2+0+10+1+0+5+1000 = 1038

    42+4+2+1+1000+501+500+1+99+1+100 = 2251

    answer: 141 + 1038 + 2251 = 3430, although that is probably rubbish as well

  360. james Says:

    yeah i forgot bout sterring wheels etc etc ..however no matter what the answer is this will last for ages and theyll change there maths till its prob a month down the line yet we are all assured the answer is simple..what a lying bunch of twats.

  361. Seamus Kennedy Says:

    I reckon taxi = 32,
    Even numbers = 4. The number of even numbers up to 10.
    Numbers on dice = 0. Dots on a dice,not numbers.
    Answer = 36,
    I also have another theory that the answer is the numbers written in the sentences, 8(taxis) 10 (even numbers) One (one dice)
    Answer = 19

  362. stan Says:

    My gripe with this puzzle is that it should have to have the exact same logic as the previous puzzle – or else it just turns into another guessing game.

  363. Sam S Says:

    My gripe is that games like this and the prev numbers game will run and run . Each having its own wild logic (if you can call it that) behind it.

    This is modern programming at its most perverse

    Presenters who run out of things to say almost upon speaking. All the presenters repeat everything in quicker succession. eg “What are you thinking? What-are-you think-king. If your thinking what I am thinking then you should make your play, think about it then make your play. Cos if your thinking what I am thinking then you should make your play. Pick up the phone and dial those numbers, Pick up the phone and dial those numbers. Come on guys people have won prizes like these, people having won prizes just like these. People just like you at home, people just like you haved picked up the phone and dialed those numbers….”

    and repeat various of the above for about four hours with really inane mind numbing muzik play all the time, except when they cut the muzik zoom in for a head shot and play a computerized heart beat.

    quiz telly is the most incongruous trite. turn off or over television. Krap!!

    Its ironic that the comments (more recent ones) are perpetuating what the original post sought to condemn

  364. stan Says:

    Well Sam, I think you’re right – the original post was written out of frustration at this con, and the majority of the comments here have been from people watching the show live and talking about it. A number of my friends suggested that I turn comments off, because it’s getting a bit ridiculous – but, at the same time, I like finding out how they actually get the answers to these things.

    I don’t watch the show – I should make that clear, it was during the summer when I tended to catch it on late-night ITV – but this thread does serve a purpose as a cache of ‘evidence.’ My ultimate dream is that OFCOM close these scams down, and although it’s unfoesable that anything on this page will contribute to that, I want to play any part that I can.

    Or alternatively, if people can use this to see which answers have already gone (or similar) then hopefully people can use it to win the puzzles before they drag on for months and months. This way the program would, in theory, make a good deal less money.

    In my opinion OFCOM should impose some rules on the program, such as ‘every number puzzle must have the same logic’ – in which case, it wouldn’t take long for the answers to be worked out on pages like this, and then someone can win a life-changing amount of money and those bastards at ITV Play can come up with a new scam.

    Yeah, actually, now that I’ve written this I’m reverting back to my original sentiment: close this Goddamn programme down for good.

  365. james Says:

    good post stan..

    you know somewhere out there people will read this and say to themselves if these people hate it so much why on earth don”t they just not watch it? My reply would be i watch it infrequently but when i do switch it on its cos theres nothing much else on and u get a laugh without on my part ever claling in .

    I agree with almost every single post on here and i have to say the presenters on these prgrammes must really be struggling . i have seen a few posts about why are all the “MALE” presenters gays?? well i know why that is because women relate to gays as being honest trustworthy and so on so on and the older women especially “oh wat a lovely lad” he wouldnt con me lol…

    i watched quizcall for a while on sunday sky855 there was this guess what comes after the word “green”..from 5pm till 755pm no winners i didnt watch it continuously just flicked back and fro but in 2 hrs 55 mins no winners and the continuous begging from this presenter with sentences like

    ” ITS YOUR MONEY COME AND TAKE IT”
    “WHY ARE YOU WAITING ITS EASY IT BELONGS TO YOU”
    “I DONT WANT YOUR MONEY YOU MUST CALL AND TAKE IT”
    ” 1 PHONECALL AND YOU WILL BE HOLIDAYING”

    you get the drift eventually the money went down from 10x the money min win £1000 to £200 just before the end and yip u already know “green ASPARAGUS” hahahhathat was the ridiculously “easy” answer she had known all along…now forgive me for being wrong but is that not just an con?? i also love the

    ” ITS ONLY 75P WHATS 75P WHEN YOU ARE GONNA WIN 1000S”

    i wonder why they never tell you that your chances are 100s of 1000s to one of even getting through and then u have to answer the most ridiculous unobvious answers ever.i like you stan want this banned from tv its a disgrace its allowed to continue.

  366. Sam S Says:

    Stan I wholeheartedly agree with you too. The need for regulations to be enforced on shows like this are way over due. It pitiful that nothing has been done about this as its nearing a year since the introduction of Quizmania which was much tamer and ‘honest’ compared to The Mint & Make Your Play.

    I don’t watch the show – I should make that clear, it was during the summer when I tended to catch it on late-night ITV – but this thread does serve a purpose as a cache of ‘evidence.’ My ultimate dream is that OFCOM close these scams down, and although it’s unfoesable that anything on this page will contribute to that, I want to play any part that I can.
    good on you

    My question is:
    Why has nothing been done?

  367. james Says:

    its pretty simple why nothings been done these companies are taking the guidelines to the extreme without being proven theyre breaking the law..even though we 99.9% know they are proving it is difficult..itvplay sure needs if its to continue make this more transparent with there games , rules etc etc but then again if they were noone would call so well i dunno what to do except bombard
    OFCOM with complaints and ICSTIS also..

  368. Sam S Says:

    Clive Owens (INT News Reader) is on the show when I last had the misfortune flick through the channels and caught a glipse.

  369. Gavinski Says:

    So you had the misfortune to flick onto the channel, but you had the complete sadness to post about it. IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT, DON’T WATCH IT! “Flicking” onto it (if that’s really what you did) is not going to kill you. Boon.

  370. james Says:

    The newsreaders name is Nic owen btw but since its itv mint clives close enough….loool

  371. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    Channel 4 is pulling out of the quiz telly market by selling off Ostrich Media, its subsidiary that makes Quiz Call.

    C4 launched Ostrich just over a year ago through its commercial arm, 4Ventures. he ­decision to sell comes as the quiz telly market grows increasingly competitive and harder to make ­profitable. The sector is also facing tighter restrictions from Ofcom and premium-rate phone services regulator Icstis and the Gambling Commission.

    The sale of Ostrich will include the Quiz Call channel slots on NTL and Sky as well as the company’s back room technology such as its customer relations management capability.

    The deal will not, however, include the channel’s valuable Freeview slot. C4 will use this capacity to launch a new channel outside the call-TV market.

    Last month Quiz Call was the subject of an article in the Sunday Times which claimed it was manipulating games by blocking callers from taking part for periods of up to 40 minutes while charging a standard 75p premium line fee.

    A source close to C4 said: “Channel 4 always wanted to keep Quiz Call at arm’s length which is why it set up Ostrich Media. After everything that is going on in the sector it has decided it could damage the C4 brand through association.”

    Ostrich employs 40 staff and is run by managing director Frederick Fleck.

  372. JC Says:

    the only thing that Offcom regulate is their own Bowel movement

  373. Michael Says:

    I think people should stop ranting about this and do something about it. I totally agree with everyone here, so why don’t people … umm … stop calling? If no-one called, ITV would be fucked. Of course you’re gonna get grannies calling but 1 less caller is 1 less 60p and that’s less money for ITV ;)

    If it did go on and get even worse than the nineteen minus five thing i would go to the studios next time i’m in london and do something really embarassing and stupid for me and a presenter if i manage to catch one hahaha after getting pissed at a nearby pub. fun fun fun

  374. Michael Says:

    I think people should stop ranting about this and do something about it. I totally agree with everyone here, so why don’t people … umm … stop calling? If no-one called, ITV would be fucked. Of course you’re gonna get grannies calling but 1 less caller is 1 less 75p and that’s less money for ITV ;)

  375. james Says:

    i see the wheels and taxis is back YET again tonight ..this will go on for ages n ages its just so impossible why oh why do people callin i desperate would love to get through my answer would be noone fone its a swindle…hopefully get that in b4 i got cut off..;p
    god i wish people were not so stupid.

  376. WENDY Says:

    its 4000 plus something I think

  377. james Says:

    wendy i think we both know if someone got the right answer they can and will until theyre ready to give that loot away decide on any number of ways of calculating the right answer

    ITVPLAY IS A CON

  378. Gavin Says:

    Has anyone looked up the definition of an even number?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Even_numbers

    There are countless even numbers up to 10, as -4 and -6 and -293920308 are all even numbers. So whether you add them up, count them and add any of the other things to it… it doesnt really matter because you should get infinity (count the number of even), or minus infinity (adding the even numbers).

    But that wont be the answer because its a big fat con!

  379. Gavin Says:

    Has anyone looked up the definition of an even number?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Even_numbers

    There are countless even numbers up to 10, as -4 and -6 and -293920308 are all even numbers. So whether you add them up, count them and add any of the other things to it… it doesnt really matter because you should get infinity (count the number of even), or minus infinity (adding the even numbers).

    But that wont be the answer because its a big fat con!

  380. Gavin Says:

    Oops, my bad.

  381. Eddie Says:

    Of course, I agree with many of the previous postings – the whole thing is a massive con. It should be taken off the screen.

    But – if people must play, lets encourage as many people as possible to use the free route entry.

    Also, Chambers dictionary is an excellent source for obscure phrases eg sun dog, sun crack, sun myth.

    And the add the numbers puzzles definitely involve roman numerals. For example in the latest DICE =

    D 500
    DI 501
    DIC 599
    IC 99
    C 100
    I 1

    Which equals 1800 for that word alone.

    If we can’t get the show off-air lets get their money.

  382. james Says:

    eddie good thinking BUT every so often although gettin more frequentthey bring along a game like this ok..there is NO logical answer and the scandal is they ALWAYS have to start giving clues after about a month so that its won then they never ever tell you how they arrived at this figure its a scam its like me holding a coin in my hand and betting you cannot guess which one its in and even if you guess right i change it everytime you hit the right one..a complete con and im furious that people keep calling its just so god damn grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

  383. neothe Says:

    wheels on eight taxis
    even numbers up to 10
    numbers on one dice

    if you take “on” and first letter of eight you get “one”
    last letter of taxis and “even” you get “seven”

    thought these numbers might also be included in total – whatever that may be. also, they could include “six” reading backwards in taxis

  384. james Says:

    this is the whole thing neothe they can simply make the answer whatever number they choose theres 100s of ways they can me different answers its a total disgrace and not only is it a con but its in my opinion fraud because they will never ever tell you how they worked out the answer.

  385. Sam S Says:

    The subject of Quiz Television was on the news and they may have to reclassify it a as a lottery rather than a quiz.

    Personally I think you’ve got more chance of dying from loss of blood after receiving a paper cut that you have of getting through to A TV Quiz show – without hammering the redial button.

    ‘Hit that redial, just hit the redial… Set your limits’ something I’ve heard some busty young blonde presenter chirp.

    Would it not be ironic to see Nic Owen read a news item:

    ‘Late night ITV Quiz Show the Mint is suspended from broadcast and the shows producers are under investigation…’

    Thankfully I should be able to watch replayed snooker until 2 every morning on BBC by which time C4 will have some film on. Speaking of whom I would like to add that it is underhand of C4 to make these shows for other channels and knock other channels for broadcasting them

  386. james Says:

    here we go a new numbers puzzle 44 + 80 + ninety-six =220

    no chance its another month before we dont get told the answer….lool

  387. Alastair Says:

    I can’t believe that they are getting away with what seems to be such blatent manipulation. I feel very sorry for all the poor people out there who really can’t afford it and shouldn’t be phoning up, but are constantly fed with the nonsense that they have a great chance of winning money that could change their lives.

    [statement removed by request]

    This ridiculous balloons game that is on at the moment. “Just add the numbers, it is as simple as that”. Yeah right. They have been on the telly since midnight and so far have given away no money whatsoever. Yet they “really love to give away money”.

    They said that the lottery fed false hopes to people who really couldn’t afford to spend their hard earned money… surely this is even worse, isn’t it? How the hell are they getting away with it.

    Good luck to all of you who do the free entries. If only everyone would do it rather than calling those telephone lines.

  388. james Says:

    Alistair ive done 10s of 1000s of free entries over the past year and never once got through thats 100% the truth its a C O N ofcom KNOW its a con but theyre as ueful as a chocolate fireguard..and you know why they run this game because theyre on the take tonight..But you watch over the next cpl nights theyll give away £30-£40k .. imjust listening to it just now that slapper just said if you dont call and someone wins your stupid…ffs how the fuck thery get away with that grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

  389. Neilus Says:

    Add The Numbers

    44 80 Ninety-Six

    Use a bit of logic here, and then call if you can be arsed. I tried but couldn’t get through:

    44
    80
    90
    9 (from NINEty)
    6
    84 (Ninety MINUS Six)
    1 (the I from Ninety is the roman numeral for 1)
    9 (IX from six is 9 as a roman numeral)

    Add it all together:

    44+80+90+9+6+84+1+9 = 323

    Someone PLEASE call with this answer.

    I am not a money-grabbing bastard so if someone does get it right with this answer….well done.

    I will sleep well through smugness, not an increase in bank balance.

  390. james Says:

    by the way if you wanna email these whores the email addy is>>> PRESENTERS@THEMINT.TV i write a few telling them bout ofcom thats why theyre so desperate theyve started begging lmao….

  391. Rickfish Says:

    Similar logic

    96 ninety-six
    90 ninety
    6 six
    9 nine
    1 i
    1 i
    9 ix
    10 x
    44
    4
    4
    80
    8

    Total = 362

    I tried a some calls but it’s time for bed. If you win send me a present!

  392. Neilus Says:

    Good shout Rickfish!!

    Someone try both answers!!

  393. Gavinski Says:

    You hate this show so much yet you sit and watch it – TWAT!

  394. Ian is exasperated!!! Says:

    “Go for it!”, “Get winning!” and “Grab some cash!” are some of the familiar phrases that flash onto the screen. They ACTUALLY all apply to The Mint TV programme and its bank account, NOT to the eager contestants who may not realise they have virtually no chance of benefiting from spending 75p a call.

    I had The Mint on all Monday night in the background and could not believe there were no winners for the entire length of the programme (4 hours!). It was the ‘wheels on 8 taxis’ puzzle scam. Having seen The Mint, Quizmania and Make Your Play on-and-off over the last few months, it finally dawned on me what a rip-off these programmes are. It exasperates me how people are so easily parted from their pennies.

    So “Don’t miss out!” and you won’t miss out when you DON’T PLAY THIS ENTICING GAME!

    There are many charities and local good causes that would appreciate 75p a time. This is likely to be a more satisfying way of money leaving one’s pockets. It will be better spent, give more value and ultimately be a better use of spare dosh.

    I don’t advocate bringing back the old-fashioned Closedown with the national anthem, but watching the white dot disappear, watching paint dry or watching continuous playback of BBC Parliament are all preferable to watching, in my opinion, this mind-numbing, underhand, time-wasting drivel.

  395. Neilus Says:

    I agree entirely Ian.

    I have called a few times, but the only reason I am still awake is a combination of insomnia and seeing if anyone actually gives a sensible answer!!

    Over the last few months I have managed to answer most of the puzzles I have seen during the course of the evening.

    The reason they do so well is that the benefit-grabbing Chav numpty wankers that phone can’t even tie their own shoelaces, let alone solve Logic Problems and Word Association Games. You only have to watch The Price Is Right, Family Fortunes or any other low-brow quiz show to see that.

    What ITV have done here is taken a few tricky-ish puzzles and convinced thousands of red-eyed night-shift retards to part with their not-very-hard-earned cash.

    I personally think that’s brilliant. Wish I had come up with it. I would be laughing all the way to St Tropez if I had….

    ….and of course OFCOM have done nothing. There’s nothing wrong with what they are doing. It’s creative enterprise.

    Plus, the OFCOM staff are probably off to St Tropez too!!

    Chortle….

  396. Linden Says:

    96 ninety-six
    90 ninety
    6 six
    9 nine
    1 i
    1 i
    9 ix
    10 x
    44
    4
    4
    80
    8
    84?

    = 446

    Maybe add ninety MINUS six on to that? (84)

    Filled in 150 web entries and got a pass for the 0800 number 4 times, didn’t get through to the studio on any of these.

    What I hate is the way the presenters imply that its a call centre type system where you call and ‘get on hold’, thereby once on hold all you have to do is wait to get through. It isn’t like this at all, if you get through you’ve got a period of about 10 seconds where you ‘might’ get put through before they cut you off and say ‘please try again’.

    This is completely different to how they are explaining how their phone system works on the program.

  397. robin Says:

    http://www.itvplc.com/itv/fininfo/presentations/ir2006/ir2006.pdf
    page 22:
    ‘ITV Play on track to make £20m in first full year’

  398. Neilus Says:

    £20m…..

    …is that all?

    Hmmm

  399. Ian is exasperated!!! Says:

    And there will be plenty of people who agree, as disagree, with us and all the above posts Neilus.

    I am glad that I believe I can see the wood for the trees. I may be insane and ashamed to admit exactly how many hours I have had these programmes on this year (I watch with incredulous bemusement at this guff), but sane enough that my total spend will always remain the same: zero.

    Perhaps more people could be off to St. Tropez with the OFCOM staff if they left the 0901 numbers alone?!

  400. Neilus Says:

    Do you know what Ian?

    We are cut from the same cloth, you and I.

    I want to sleep….really I do….but this shit is hypnotic!!

    Watch out for people around the Maidstone area with an unhealthy tan…hehe!!

  401. Ian is exasperated!!! Says:

    Hey everyone, I found the answer!

    Simply ‘Add the numbers’ 44, 80 and 96.

    Quick! There is less than a minute to go.

    ‘Final call on this puzzle!’

    ‘Serious cash!’

    ‘Get involved!’

    The answer is 20 000 000!

  402. james Says:

    and there it goes over 3 hours and these whores dont even have the decency to tell you the answer and as for you givinski i hope you shit a hedgehog some of us work at night and dont have cable or sattellite retard.

  403. Neilus Says:

    It’s too late for excessive hostility, James!!

    Just try and solve the next one:

    BACK __________

    I have worked out there are about 70 possible answers.

    I reckon BACK BACON is one of them!!

    Shit….now I am hungry….

  404. andy Says:

    I watched the mint tonight wed 25th – for 3 hours they had 3 balloons with 44, ninety-six and 80 and asked you to add the numbers. It certainly wasnt the logical 220. Nobody got the answer right and then they withdrew the game and went on to new game. I think everybody who lost their hard earned cash to ITV have a right to know what the correct answer was. SO ITV WHAT WAS THE ANSWER?? I think this is a scam by ITV, poor television, poor planning by the programme producers. Remember your in television – not a glorified scratchcard business.

  405. james Says:

    andy they will bring it back again and again and again hmmmmm

    thats it

    BACK AGAIN :D im off to make 150 calls:D only cost me over a £100 not to get through but what the heck its fun :p

  406. Rickfish Says:

    So we never know the answer. You can see the previous answers (and live answers) at Game On Tools http://www.gotools.co.uk. No one got through with 323, 362, or 446.

    I saw this program for the first time last night and had to keep reminding myself this was ITV not some crappy rip-off Sky channel way down the channel list. The style of presentation is all about parting suckers with their money. But just because a lot of suckers lose their money doesn’t mean to say it is necessarily a bad risk for a skillful game player. However the entry system does leave a lot to be desired. I had no idea what chance there was of getting through to give your answer. I guess it was a big long shot. I tried when the prize was £20,000 so I was being offered 26,666 to 1 on my 75p. So if I estimated that my educated guess of 362 had odds of 9 to 1 I would have to have a better chance than 2,666 to 1 of getting through on one attempt. They only took about 100 answers in all that time and they have hundreds of lines don’t they? A call only takes a short while, no more that 30 seconds? Say 500 lines at 2 calls per minute for 4 hours which is 600,000 calls of which only 100 got through which is 5999 to 1. I would need to have had a better chance than 9 to 1 of being right – no worse than about 3 to 1. However, all these figures need to be made more accurate based on real facts instead of guesses.

  407. Rickfish Says:

    For the “add the numbers” game
    44 ninety-six
    80

    These were the to top answers. If you want some mental exercise try to work out how each was derived:

    112 (8)
    220 (8)
    208 (7)
    16 (6)
    31 (6)
    124 (5)
    100 (3)
    184 (3)
    223 (3)
    4 (3)
    52 (3)
    136 (2)
    214 (2)
    341 (2)
    44896 (2)
    7 (2)

  408. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    MPs are to launch an inquiry into quiz telly shows such as ITV’s Make Your Play and Ostrich Media’s Quiz Call amid fears that they may lure people into gambling addictions.

    The culture, media and sport select committee said it would look into the growth of such operations.

    The committee said it would look in particular at issues such as the procedures for how broadcasters handle calls from viewers; the information provided to viewers about the costs of calls and viewers’ chances of participating and winning; and the role of quiz telly in raising income for broadcasters.

    The committee will also look at the financial impact on viewers, and whether further regulation of quiz telly is required.

    The committee, which is chaired by the Conservative MP John Whittingdale OBE has called for written submissions on the issue to be made by November 16. It is expected that oral evidence will be submitted shortly after that date.

  409. ALEX Says:

    http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/tm_headline=quiz-or-swizz-&method=full&objectid=17890717&siteid=64736-name_page.html

    rickfish i know you worked yor odds out reasonably but have a look at that..sunday mail made 250 consecutive calls costing £365 to this scam and NOT ONE got put through..it also makes a moockery of there 150 max calls per day..i assure you the chances of getting through are much higher than any calculation anyone can mae and as for random i mean gee…when they have a clock on say for 2 minutes its 99/100 the last 2 secs beofre the caller gets through so it proves them to be liars when they say we have no idea when calls will come through they decide when to let a caller though…1 VERY VERY LARGE CON.

  410. Steven Holdsworth Says:

    44 80 Ninety-Six

    44+4+4=52

    80+8=88

    90+6+84+9+9+1=199

    TOTAL=339

  411. Rickfish Says:

    Steven, if you include 44 and 88 surely you must include 96?

    ALEX, I overestimated the odds of getting through as I didn’t know it was 3 hours (I went to bed). Perhaps the phone lines being maximised in the early hours is unrealistic too. Perhaps the two balance each other out. If 250 consecutive calls were unsuccessful it would be expected if my estimate was right as the true chance of being unsuccessful for 250 attempts is 96%. Let’s slash my odds and say the chance of getting through is 499/1 then it is still over 60% chance that 250 attempts will fail.

  412. ALEX Says:

    rick dont take this the wrong way ok but your odds are an just plain pointless…how can you work out that after failing 250 times in a row improved the odds when yuo dont know how many more it would have taken not i say again NOT to get through..lol i have had 1000s of free web entries and never got through so does that make your odds better? its a total clearout and i bet you could call for weeks on end constantly and not get through ..

  413. RobW Says:

    I watched the show last night with the three numbered balloons and after 2 hours no one got the answer correct!!

    I can’t believe after all the bad heat ITV receive it goes and produced a programme like this with SHIT annoying presenters. A complete con and to add insult to injury these presenters mock the viewers for not calling in!! FOR FUCK SAKES they know exactly when a call will come through…. err let me guess…. triple money, lets put the timer on 3 minutes….. oh no will we have a caller with 4 seconds to go… hell yea…. 1 caller in 3 minutes…. I can’t believe people actually spend money on this, i’m horrified… and i’ll end this with the ridiculous puzzles!! you may as well guess a number between Minus 10,000 to 10,000 because the logic is awful, they make their own rules up as they go along.

  414. Jay Says:

    Y’see, i think these make perfect post-pub, not too taxing going-to-sleep-to programmes, yet i’m just waiting for someone to call in blind drunk, try to chat up the presenter, and proceed to give thier answer in terms of vomiting on the phone.

  415. Alastair Says:

    I have to say that I am finding reading some of posts on this blog a whole lot more entertaining than watching the show in question. Perhaps there should be some kind of new website launched with a chat room for people to chat, discuss answers and take the ‘michael’ out of the show as it is on air. It would also be great if there were some challenges posted for people to get the most entertaining call on to the show (like Jay’s suggestion), via the free entry of course. Now that would be entertaining. :-)

  416. ALEX Says:

    your right this is much more interesting laughing at these 2 mugus making an ass of themself for literally begging people to call ..they must be so god damn desperate for a job.and if 1 more person clals in wih blue lagoon my tv goes out the window….as for mark i reckon hes the biggest retard on tv what ya think?

  417. ALEX Says:

    ps i was gonna say why dont we all email mark and tell him what we really think of him and his begging techniques? im well up for it :D

  418. RobW Says:

    My thoughts exactly.. these blogs are much more entertaining than “The Mint” or for that matter any of these telephone quiz shows, I wondered for a long time whether I was the only person out there infuriated with this pile of shite they show on ITV between 12am – 3am, Thank god this forum has reassured me I am the sane one.. I am waiting for someone to call in and tell the presenter(s) they are complete twats!! and it’s only a matter of time before they are hate symbols around the UK.

  419. ALEX Says:

    i dunno how they can live with themselves i really dont cos i know for a fact its not a well paid job…

  420. RobW Says:

    I saw a puzzle tonight on anohter show… get this.

    Eight Times
    Ten Minus Forty
    Plus Sixteen

    “What do the numbers add up to?”

    I rest my case!!

  421. RobW Says:

    Evidently they can only be Z list celebs “If That” with absolutely no morals what so ever, trying to rearrange the same 5 words all night so as not to repeat themselves!!!

    Set yourself a limit
    pehaps limit your calls
    limit calls to 5 – 10 attempts
    have you set a limit
    think about a limit

    Shut up already!!!

  422. ALEX Says:

    ive noticed 1 thing tonight NOT ONCE have they mentioned free web entries not once…

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO someone else just said blue lagoon:((((((( cya tele

  423. ALEX Says:

    blue pencil????? ffs

  424. ALEX Says:

    Blueshift

    A shift in the frequency of a photon toward higher energy and shorter wavelength. Blueshifts can be produced by relative motion of the emitter toward the observer (doppler blueshift), light falling in a gravitational field from the emitter to the observer (gravitational blueshift), or in a contracting universe (cosmological blueshift). For further details, see Redshift.

    SUCH AN EASY ANSWER WHY THE HELL DID NONE GET IT GEEE THEYRE GETTING EASIER HUH,….LOOOOL

  425. Mac Says:

    Hello likeminded people,

    Please, please take 5 mins and register your complaints with OFCOM

    TOGETHER we’ll get them off the air

    (Complaints will be charged at £1000, not all e-mails will be succesful lol!)

  426. Rickfish Says:

    Does anyone use software to fill in the free web entry form? OK there is still the code to enter but if I could just press a button which fills in the form and I only have to enter the code I would try it a lot of times whereas I give up after 2 or 3 attempts.

  427. Steve Says:

    yes Rickfish i use one saves an awful lot of time too. I regularly use all 150 of my entries in about an hour or so.
    Do a google search for roboform. basic version is free. It also remembers all passwords too, very handy when you have a crap memory.

  428. Alastair Says:

    Yes but if we all send letters to Ofcom and get them taken off the air, what would we have to sit here and complain about? This is where the entertainment is – this message board. It is time for someone to start a ‘challenge’ website with a series of challenges. Add a chat room to the site and a message board and we are away. I tell ya, this message board has been the most entertaining thing about the show, some of the comments on here have been hilarious.

    It should be taken off the air as it is, in my opinion and many other people’s opinion, taking money from those who don’t have the money to spend and can’t resist the dream of having thousands of pounds “tax free” to pay off their debts. But if we can’t get it taken off the air, why not turn it around and make it entertaining? It would be great fun to sit in a chat room with all the other people making their funny comments and generally taking the piss out of this dire programme. Add on the challenge element and you are on to a winner.

    Come on people, let’s start it up. Is anyone willing to spend a couple of days building a site?

  429. Sleazy Charlie Says:

    My favourite moment on the Mint was during a ‘guess the 4 letter word’ game, Craig Stevens asked the caller to spell out their 4 letter word and the caller said “Sorry, I can’t spell”, Craig didn’t know what to do, took instruction in his earpiece and then said “That’s OK, you don’t have to be able to spell to play The Mint, all you have to be able to do is dial that phone number!”. So that’s the level of the intelligence of the average Mint player, people that can’t even read & write. Some of them can’t even dial a phone number properly – when The Mint and Quizmania swapped channels, a third of the callers to the studio rang the wrong show and didn’t even know what they were watching! The presenters had the barefaced cheek to criticise the thickos calling their show, but if it wasn’t for the thickos getting themselves into debt, they’d be out of a job.

    The other month, I remember there was a news item saying that gambling is going to be the future of the British economy, what with all the manufacturing and call centres now abroad; so perhaps I shouldn’t be so quick to judge them as con artists and gullible thickos – they are the people who are keeping the great British economy going! Perhaps that’s why the government are so reluctant to crack down on this modern TV gold rush.

    Also, on the subject of don’t the presenters have any conscience for ripping people off, Kat Shoob once said that she’s had trouble sleeping since she started presenting the Mint. All those thick people with massive phone bills must be starting to weigh on her conscience.

    I think the lowest common denominator factor of digital TV’s latest “extra choice” is best summed up in a screenshot of Charlie McArdle from Quizcall (owned by Ch4) on the Phone Quiz Answers Database website:

    http://www.phonequiz.somee.com/ presenter-reviews.asp?pr=21

    It says it all really don’t you think?

  430. stuart Says:

    i have looked through this whle topic of questons and debates on these type of shows, and agree and disagree with alot that has been said. First of all yes its a con, but only if you do not know how to play the system, and also learn from it, i mean who on earth would phone this show up and spend 75p trying to get through with odds of thousands to one, i have never got through with a telephone entry.
    the free web entries that cost you nothing but your time, actually give you a better chance to get through to these shows, as you are automatically through to the last stage, its in this way that i have got through to each and every show once a fortnight, and so far in under 6 months have won a total of £18,775,, i have won £7,000 twice on the mint, and £3,000 on quizmania, and a few other small wins, now the secret to this is trying to get a code with your free web entries when you know if you get through you are guaranteed to win as the clue is up. do not try to get through when you have to guess, the odds are against you, the secret is when knowing when to go for it, when you cant lose if you are lucky enough to get through, and i certainly have been these last months, its playing them at there own game, and yes ofcourse you will get the dunderheads that phone in a game they cant possibly win, but hey that will always be the case with any type of lottery gameshow, some people never learn, but ban these shows? lol i would be out of a bloody living then, and where else can you get nearly £19, 000 for no outlay? no bloody were, long may it last.

  431. Alastair Says:

    Stuart – I can see that you are doing very well from this. Full credit to you for playing the system and winning. What I hate is the fact that a lot of the people that are phoning up are likely to be people thinking they have a good chance of winning money, money that could get them out of financial problems or get them their dream (imagine what you could do with xx thousand pounds… blah blah). With puzzles like this one tonight (bloody balloons again) they really have little or no chance of getting the answer – it has been on lots of times previously. Yet the presenters constantly talk as if the answer is obvious, trying to tell people that it is a great time to pick up the phone.

    I particularly do not like the guy who is on tonight. There is something about him and the way he talks.

    Stuart – I’m guessing you won’t be wasting your time with free web entries tonight, with it being the balloons game. Your strategy is sensible and sound and you have made money from it. I just hope that all of these people who are phoning up and wasting their money have the money to waste, that is all.

  432. harmick Says:

    I absolutely detest this television show with all my heart. It is on my tv now and i was prompted to search for “Itv play con ” on google and this came up! i am so glad im not the only one, surely in this day and age , there should be regulations against this. it is purely trashy and a discredit to the reputation of uk television ( at the end of the day this is o nTERRESTRIAL!!!) madness, madness.

  433. ALEX Says:

    This retard mark is a complete and utter no matter what anyone says a CONMAN who needs not just booted off the tele but fuckin locked up..lies include

    1>ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CALL ITS YOUR MONEY ..LIES

    2> ITS REALLY VERY SIMPLE >> LIES

    3>PUT SOME EFFORT IN ITO IT AND YOU WILL WIN>LIES

    His classic tonight was>>>IF YOU HAVE SET YOURSLEF A BUDGET DONT YOU THINK ITS WORTH A FEW EXTRA CALLS FOR £30K thats just as low as you can possibly go.

  434. Linda Says:

    What annoys me about these numbers games is that there does not seem to be any check that there is a definite answer – holding up a brown envelope containing a supposed answer doesn’t prove anything unless it is lodged with an independent party before the game starts. There are so many possible answers, I suspect if someone got the “correct” answer on the first night they would just say it was wrong and choose another one. On this balloon one, the digital number 80 contains so many other numbers – i.e. the 8 also contains a 2, 3, 6 & 9. The digital zero contains two 1’s plus 11. Or you could count four 1’s in it. And there are roman numerals in the ninety-six, but do you count ix as 9, or as 9, 10 & 1? There are just too many options. They should have to give the odds of getting through so people know the real cost – the excuse they give is it varies, but they could give a range.

  435. ALEX Says:

    linda they could have a mill